Firaxis! Oceania wants in...

[History Guy]

As it is, Firaxis has already made the final decision on all civs and leaders for PTW, and it looks very much like:

Mongols
Vikings
Spanish
Celts
Vikings
Koreans
Ottomans
Arabs

As for Oceania, there were hints that there would be a second expansion pack, so we can always hope for that!

[NeoStar]

Originally posted by History Guy
As it is, Firaxis has already made the final decision on all civs and leaders for PTW, and it looks very much like:

Mongols
Vikings
Spanish
Celts
Vikings
Koreans
Ottomans
Arabs

I'd be gutted but - Guess what mate; you've put Vikings in there twice

I'll keep the faith yet...

BTW - I like Europeans but, three more of them!!! Where did you get this from? Haven't seen any such posted...

[Drake Tungsten]

I've been pushing for a Polynesian civ for a long time. There's a large hole in Oceania that needs to be filled by someone.

Regarding the worries that a Oceaniac civ would not have enough resources to compete on the real world map, wouldn't Australia pretty much always be claimed by the new Oceanic civ (especially if the Oceanic civ is given a no-tech ship unit)? If so, wouldn't Australia provide a decent, if not spectacular, land mass for a civ to develop on? The Asian mainland is a ways away from Australia; the Oceanic civ should have time to solidify its hold on Australia.

[Mongoloid Cow]

NeoStar: I think one of those vikings was meant to be Carthaginians

[History Guy]

Neostar-- That second Viking should have been a Carthaginian. As for the list I presented, I was only following the evidence provided by Firaxis, Apolyton, and Civ Fanatics. I would say that the Spanish, Vikings, Celts, Carthaginians, Mongols, Koreans, and Ottomans will definitely be in, and I have a sneaking suspicion that joining them will be the Arabs. Of course, it could simply be that the Arabs won't be there, and instead we'll see 'Oceania' or 'Incas', but I highly doubt it.

[NeoStar]

If that's true...Bloody oath!!!
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Hmmm I suppose, it-is-only-a-game.

To be honest, if the chance was small before it's becoming a speck the way things are going. If I'd concentrated only on all the inaccuracies I'd have thrown the disk by now Lucky civ has way too many things going for it

I guess I really can't holler at Firaxis either, not when FIFA doesn't even recognise us (but that might change come 2006...)

Another XP? Well, I’m not sure about that these days (and will civ3 last that long?) but Civ2 had three. Thank God we can customise our own civs, and hopefully one of the new ones will fit the bill with their UU...

BTW Thanks for all the people at Poly who took the time to support this righteous cause, which is really getting more feedback than I expected. Oceania's a great place, with our beaut' beaches, outrageous surf and tropical paradises! It doesn't look too good, but its still fun arguing the case...

OCEANIC pride WORLDWIDE

[Darkworld Ark]

Originally posted by History Guy
As it is, Firaxis has already made the final decision on all civs and leaders for PTW, and it looks very much like:

Mongols
Vikings
Spanish
Celts
Carthaginians
Koreans
Ottomans
Arabs

As for Oceania, there were hints that there would be a second expansion pack, so we can always hope for that!

I'll remind you that Korea still hasn't been conformed in any screenshot or interview.

[NeoStar]

The confirmations and other civs mentioned are one thing, a response from someone from Firaxis is another.

Those fellas are always about here, and this thread has been around for a while without anyone dropping in. Maybe they'll stick Oceania in at the last moment, but from what I've read in previews and seen in threads/shots....

No worries, I'll keep with this as long as the replies continue...

[History Guy]

Darkworld-- Have you been paying attention to the chats with Firaxis members? The Hwacha was confirmed, and the hwacha was confirmed as someone's special unit. Now since the only guys who would use the hwacha are it's creators the Koreans, don't you think that this means that they are in?

[Darkworld Ark]

Originally posted by History Guy
Darkworld-- Have you been paying attention to the chats with Firaxis members? The Hwacha was confirmed, and the hwacha was confirmed as someone's special unit. Now since the only guys who would use the hwacha are it's creators the Koreans, don't you think that this means that they are in?

Last time I checked, the only conformation of the Hwacha was a very scetchy answer from a Firaxian. He also said;
"But, then again, I know a few more things about PTW than you do."

As far as I'm conserned, at this point & time, the Koreans aren't confermed. Once I see their name or their leaders name in a screenshot or a interview/preview, I'll openly 'enbrace' them into PtW, but until then, I'll say that they aren't confermed.

[NeoStar]

EDIT-It seems your speculation about them adding "Arabs' or like is right. I've seen from an reliable source at this point no civ from the pacific has been included'.

In case that point changes, here is a quick view of what this thread has come up with thus far:

Civ: Anything Oceanic

UU: One movement raft needing no tech OR Slingshot unit OR ANZAC if Australia or NZ

Traits: Religoius(they were) and Commercial(trading was a big thing b/w tribes.

Possible Pacific things: Reef tiles / More water resources

[Dimorier Maximus]

If they were to put in any civ in Oceania, I would hope it to be Australia. Yes, the British Australia. But alas, Firaxis would never do such a thing, sober or not.

I just like the way it would round out the world map. I fixed that problem in my world map. As well as getting rid of most of the pesky tundra. The Germans start in Australia on my map, and the English start in a revamped Greenland.

[Deathwalker]

They shuld stick to countries that achieved something great. Like a Empire or Something. Not simple because there not repersented in the game

[Gangerolf]

you mean like the iroquois?

[Dimorier Maximus]

Originally posted by Gangerolf
you mean like the iroquois?

No kidding. I agree 100%. How the freak did they beat the Incas into Civ3?