The 8th civ spot- a study of the evidence

[kring]

Ugo latest screen shots

In some of these screen shots, it is obvious some names have been juried up. In the one above, you have monkey, cub,, and tiger for city names.

[Mikhail]

First of all, there really is "no" evidence. The civ select screen in the video was tricked up. The XP is still months away, I'd say that's plenty of time for Firaxis to change their minds about any of the civs. Mongols and Spanish are the only ones that have been directly confirmed by Firaxis.

Especially if Firaxis is releasing a second XP in time like they say they are. They'll have to have some popular civs left for it.

As for the mid-east being crowded, it won't be any more than Europe. Spain, France, Gauls, Rome, Germany, Russia....When you're setting up a game, you just have to think logically about what civs to include in each region (No way will Firaxis allow a 24 player game. 16 is near unplayable as it is). I NEVER include Rome, as they just end up trapped on the Itallian penninsula with 2 or 3 cities, and get conquered by France or Germany.

also, as far as I know, the F-15 can't generate a great leader either, but it's still a UU. I'm not sure though, I never play as America.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Mikhail
First of all, there really is "no" evidence. The civ select screen in the video was tricked up. The XP is still months away, I'd say that's plenty of time for Firaxis to change their minds about any of the civs. Mongols and Spanish are the only ones that have been directly confirmed by Firaxis.

Especially if Firaxis is releasing a second XP in time like they say they are. They'll have to have some popular civs left for it.

As for the mid-east being crowded, it won't be any more than Europe. Spain, France, Gauls, Rome, Germany, Russia....When you're setting up a game, you just have to think logically about what civs to include in each region (No way will Firaxis allow a 24 player game. 16 is near unplayable as it is). I NEVER include Rome, as they just end up trapped on the Itallian penninsula with 2 or 3 cities, and get conquered by France or Germany.

hi ,

they might trow in a bigger map , ...

and when palying on a 256X256 map , why , not , room for 31 civ's , ....

have a nice day

[Mikhail]

it's not the 'room' that's the problem with playing with 31 civs. It's the turn time.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Mikhail
it's not the 'room' that's the problem with playing with 31 civs. It's the turn time.

hi ,

"turnless" mode , ....;

have a nice day

[kring]

In SP, turnless mode may not be an option.

In MP, turnless mode may not be as great as it sounds; only time will tell. Besides which not everyone would want to play in turnless, since it may be less beneficient to the more warmongerers in the group.

[Veracitas]

Originally posted by kring
In SP, turnless mode may not be an option.

In MP, turnless mode may not be as great as it sounds; only time will tell. Besides which not everyone would want to play in turnless, since it may be less beneficient to the more warmongerers in the group.

Actually, warmongers will probably love hte option! Imagine, in the ancient age, it's really really hard to sneak up on an opponent. With such slow units, your opponent will most likely know that you're coming and have a whole turn at least to think about it. But imagine if you're checking your production and stuff and five mounted warriors suddenly descend on your cities and take a few before you can even click the EXIT button.

hehehehehhehe!! ::laughs maniacally::

[kring]

That sounds wonderful, until you realize the flip side of the coin, and you are on the receiving end of it.

I would truly love to see simultaneous play, similar to the old Diplomacy board game, modified since the units would then attack (which wasn't possible in that game system) each other when vying for the same turf.

I doubt it would work as you say, unless the Mounted Units had a RoP with the other civ. Since you are going to notice them as soon as they get within visual range of your lit areas. Outposts will also factor in by that time.

Considering the warmongering I have read about, I would have a large force at the borders to discourage such behavior.

[thinkingamer]

Originally posted by Oerdin


The Koreans did not invent movable type printing. Currently there is an argument in academic circles whither China or Korea where the first to invent wood block printing in the 8th century. Wood block printing differs from Guttenburg's movable type in that each page had to be carved out of a piece of wood, thus it could only be used to print a single page over and over,
while Gutenburg's movable type could be rearranged into which ever order the author wished.

According to this site http://www.printersmark.com/Pages/Hi...Anchor-ORIGINS China invented the wood block printing in 6th century. Movable type printing was invented in China in 11th century, not Guttenburg. Koreans were the 1st nation that used METAL movable type, in 1403(first time/and extensibly).

And while not mentioned in this site, Korea was the first to use METAL block printing in 12th century. Also Korea owns the oldest wood block printing (dated 751 or older).

I just want to clarify all this confusion.

[siredgar]

Monkspider, I thought you were in the Korea camp... =P

[Dimorier Maximus]

I think that the reason Firaxis hasn't told us the 8 civs is because it isn't final yet. They are probably still debating just like we are....all I know is, I hope all the civs they are debating over get in and we end up with 10 or 12 new civs instead of 8.

[kring]

In one of the last chats IIRC or in one of the interviews if I didn't, they said the civs were already chosen. They also said the info would be released in press releases, a little at a time, no doubt to build interest.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus
I think that the reason Firaxis hasn't told us the 8 civs is because it isn't final yet. They are probably still debating just like we are....all I know is, I hope all the civs they are debating over get in and we end up with 10 or 12 new civs instead of 8.

hi ,

, that would be great , ... who knows , ....

there is room in total for 32 , one for the barbarians , maybe one for the UN , still we have 31 or 30 , ...right now 16 , so there are still 15 or 14 out there , okay lets say they shall use the option of "the country split's in two" , then they should , or could still bring 10 out , at least , ....

, now , all we need is a bigger map , ....

have a nice day