im a little late, i know, but where did the 7-letter test come from?
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In PtW video, Jeff Morris selects Civs for some seconds. We see 7 names which could be "Mongolia - Ancient" or "Spain - Industrial" (the Civ selection screen was tricked up). The last Civ in the screen seems to have 7 letters. It's extremely blurry, so I won't consider this as an element of proof, especially since the Civ selection screen was tricked up. It could perfectly be the "English" or whatever."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
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Originally posted by kring
Having read the 9 page chat log, I am not convinced the Koreans are in. Flawed logic would say yes, but the key is that the Firaxians never admitted the Koreans were in; nor did they admit the Hwacha was a UU. I am not saying they are not in; I just don't believe the current evidence points conclusively to them being in.
Here, Mike did not confirm it was a UU; what he did was ask another question to throw people off track. Nor did he confirm the Koreans are in during his other response; he again threw people off by making a comment about how to get a GA another way. The thing to remember is that IF Koreans are in, have the Hwacha as a UU, then it would be unbalancing if their UU couldn't start a UU when all the other current UUs can. The Koreans could still be in, with the Hwacha as another arty unit available to all, if you have the necessary resource(s). The last could also be true, without the Koreans being in: a new arty unit.
I did try something today. I made Cannons and Catapults Start GA; Catapults were kept nonlethal; Cannons were made land lethal. Then I put both in a scenario as starting units, since I didn't want to wait that long to test the theory. Results:
Non lethal Catapults damaged several units, but no GA. Cannons destroyed a Babylonian Warrior; GA started. So, if Koreans are in and the Hwacha is a UU, then Lethal Bombardment would have to be enabled for it to cause a GA, as the game currently works.
The beta testers will know soon enough, but they won't be able to tell us. This sounds like it may be one of the last civs revealed since it is such a hot topic; what bettter marketing ploy than to withhold it until last?
According to the chat, some of the early units for Civ 3 didn't make the cut into the final product.
the last line , .....true , this had something to do with infogrames pushing , also , Sid wanted to go further , way further but this was deemed as unreal and to much , people where saying that no-one could "control" this , that it was to much at ones , ....
BUT , there should be more stuff in , a lot more , and more wonders , and even some civ-specific wonders (!) , ...
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We must take into consideration the fact that the Arabs were only mentioned in one article, and it was the same article that reported that the 'Gauls' were in. The Turks certainly look to be in, as the picture of the chap that was released to us certainly appears Turkish in appearance. I have a suspicion that there aren't any Arabs in Civ3 PTW after all! I put forward my opinion that there are then two empty spots, and I believe that the one is now filled by Korea. Therefore, the last one shall be Hebrew or Inca. I think it'll be the Incas. The Koreans makes up for that seven letter word.Empire growing,
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I know the Arabs and the Turks are totally different but it seems a shame to include two middle eastern civs and not a single one from the Americas or Africa.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Oerdin
I know the Arabs and the Turks are totally different but it seems a shame to include two middle eastern civs and not a single one from the Americas or Africa.
they could put the arabs from marocco to algeria , from yemen to syria , ....room enough to put them
no for real , they should be in , put them in the current sahara , .....
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Tsk tsk......
but seriously, many civilizations are clustered into a thin band running across Eurasia, and Civ should reflect that. Unless we're planning to dump the Spanish and the Japanese too, I don't see why we should leave either the Turks or the Arabs out.Poor silly humans. A temporarily stable pattern of matter and energy stumbles upon self-cognizance for a moment, and suddenly it thinks the whole universe was created for its benefit. -- mbelleroff
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Originally posted by Oerdin
I know the Arabs and the Turks are totally different but it seems a shame to include two middle eastern civs and not a single one from the Americas or Africa.
BTW Africa included in "Middle East Group" by game terms.
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The Arabs didn't arrive in north Africa until the 8th century. If the Arabs are in then they should start them in in the correct spot or not include them at all.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.
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Originally posted by Oerdin
The Arabs didn't arrive in north Africa until the 8th century. If the Arabs are in then they should start them in in the correct spot or not include them at all.
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Originally posted by Imp. Montezuma
You are right. I'm work on modeling of Arabs in Earth started in Medina. They stil weak even in GA. May be need special bonus resource like' 'Oasis' +1 Food +1 Shield.
an oasis would be neat , this could be really nice , imagine the effects of that , on a current world map , , yeah it could work
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Originally posted by panag
hi ,
an oasis would be freat , this could be really nice , imagine the effects of that , on a current world map , , yeah it could work
have a nice day
I want next special 'resources' like 'Volcano' randomly on Mauntains with negative bonus -3 Food, -3 Shield, +1 Gold; 'Tornado' with watever bonus
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I don't see what peoples' problem is with the Middle EAst being crowded, because it is. Anyways, who plays on the real world map anyways, even if Firaxis adds a real world senario with realistic starting points, what's the fun in knowing were all the other civilizations are going to be?Know your enemies!
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Originally posted by Imp. Montezuma
freat?
I want next special 'resources' like 'Volcano' randomly on Mauntains with negative bonus -3 Food, -3 Shield, +1 Gold; 'Tornado' with watever bonus
NEAT , thanks , ...
now , "tornado" + bonus , ....
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- LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
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