Living Large: Chapter 1

[Mazarin]

I have.

[Dis]

what causes the game to turn accel production on? This happened in the PTW democracy game.

[Dis]

OK I still have a problem. Both of my saved games (4000 and 3950 BC) still show accell. production- even when loaded properly.

[Mazarin]

You didn't have this the first time you played -did you?

[CerberusIV]

Is the easiest way to sort this out going to be to simply start again?

I had a good position but I'm not bothered if starting a new game is the best way to sort this and get on.

[Beta]

We should be able to keep the starting positions. If Flandrien as administrator can take Dissident's 4000 bc turn, make sure AP is off, and then Dissident can replay.

And make sure we all use the Multi-Player load method!!!

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Dissident
what causes the game to turn accel production on? This happened in the PTW democracy game.

This is a bug that can generate when the game is loaded through SP instead of MP.

I don't think we have to start all over. We can go back to where it first happened and make sure to load through MP.

Or we can continue to play with accelerated production on. If we have people who load through SP its just a matter of time until it clicks on again.

[Mazarin]

But dissident was the first who played it...and he says that in his 4000BC-turn it is already ON -even when loading through the MP-screen

[Beta]

Hmm - can he not reset it before playing the first turn.

Interestingly - I was coming here to say I think I may have been the guilty party. There are some issues in the ptw-demo game, and in the discussion - dejon posted this:

"There are dangers with every method. I remember the save getting screwed up on the first turn because someone loaded through the MP menu and had the Accelerated Production turned on - we had to back up and redo turns."

Which remided me that when I played my first turn, I did it as recommended - via MP. But I played a turn on another pbem game just prior to that, and in that game we are using AP. Not sure if that would affect things or not. dejon suggests that it could.

But Dissident's 4000BC save was before I even touched the game, so there goes that theory.

[CerberusIV]

I suspect that sometimes the settings for the previous game you were playing are not reset, hence AP coming on.

The good news is I have checked the original savegame I got from Andy_Hammer and played it again and it seems not to have AP on. I will send the next turn to Betahound and Flandrien. Could you both have a look at it and check if it is OK?

[Flandrien1]

This bug is really freaking me out.
The same save game can either start with or without accellerated production, depending on god knows what.

The only thing I know is this:
After you selected the game file, and before you press launch, check the acc.prod flag.
If it is blue (switched on), DO NOT CONTINUE.
In stead, re-load, re-start civ3, do whatever you want until the flag is displayed black (switched off).
Only then can you play the turn.

[CerberusIV]

I have never played with AP on. I suspect that if you try to start a PBEM turn and AP comes up as on, the way out is to go back to the main menu and either play a turn of a SP game that has AP off or start and abandon a SP game with AP off. That should make sure it is off and then you can try the PBEM game again

[Beta]

3950 save sent to Dissident.

Here was my experince today. I am playing strictly by the set of rules Sir Ralph and GhegisFarb laid out a ptw-demo game thread. I will go an get them for the next post.

Started up MP, and played my other pbem game turn first. It was using AP. I played it and saved it, which takes me to the main screen again, hit MP, and notice that AP is on. Turn it off. Load Living Large save, and play the turn.

This is the same process I used last time, but I didn't check the AP. So, if it wasn't on by the time it made it to me, I could have been the culprit.

Will not happen again.

[Beta]

Here was the post:

Proposal for a common rule to play a turn:

Start the game

Hit Multiplayer

Make sure, Location is set to Local games and not to Internet.

Hit Host

Make sure, the Game rules are standard. At the left side, all options shall be checked, at the right side only Preserve Random Seed and Allow Cultural Conversions. Especially make sure, that Accelerated Production is not set.

Set Game Type to Play By Email.

Set Game Mode to Load Game.

Choose the game to load in the dialogbox.

Hit Launch.

Enter your team password.

Play the turn. It is not allowed to save and reload during the turn, due to the production bug.

Save the game after the Save and Exit dialog shows up.

The file name shall be the name the game proposes by default.

Send the turn to your successor.

Post "File sent" in the Saved Game or PBEM Game Thread

[Dis]

turn sent

and actually I may be the guilty party. I had a game going on that does use Accel. production. I completely closed out civ3 before loading this game.

It appears to be normal. I passed it on.