Civs included. Just the facts madam.

[SerapisIV]

I'd call it a possibility, but when you're looking at a couple pixel unit how much difference can be made between a Japanese and Chinese unit?

[Bereta_Eder]

JamesJKirk,
I don't understand the first part of your statement.
As for the second part, unfortunately we don't yet have any other information relative to the Iroquois but the abovementioned example reference. I agree that Firaxis must have decided about the civs early on in order to create the leader's expressions, unic units etc but it might just have been an example. I propose we do not include the Iroquois as of yet untill we have more concrete info. But also see the responce to Serapis.

Al Kimiya,
I don't think any of these civs will be minor. The matter is open for debate of course assuming you (or anyone else) can point out the exact information we have about minor civs.

Thank you Serapis about the indian leader,
Can someone with a knowledge of the Indians of America give some suggestions about the identity of this indian leader?
This leader in connection with the Iroquois example that roman pointed out strongly suggests Iroquois (no matter that the Aztecs are certaintly in as well).

Thank you Ralf about the Japanese,
This unit looks positevily like a Samurai warrior.

So, so far we know that:

GREEKS ARE IN
AMERICANS ARE IN
GERMANS ARE IN
CHINESE ARE IN
ROMANS ARE IN
FRENCH ARE IN
RUSSIANS ARE IN
ZULUS ARE IN
ENGLISH ARE IN
AZTECS ARE IN
JAPANESE ARE IN

Do we know for certain that the number of civs will be exactly 16?

Keep your information and opinions coming Apolytoners.

[Bereta_Eder]

quote: Originally posted by SerapisIV on 05-14-2001 01:09 PM I'd call it a possibility, but when you're looking at a couple pixel unit how much difference can be made between a Japanese and Chinese unit?

Anyone shares this opinion as well?

I didn't read your opinion when I was posting Serapis because I was posting at the same time as you.


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[SerapisIV]

I'm not sure if its a Japanese unit or not, but I think the Japanese are in the game. Japan is too huge a market for video games for them not to include a Japanese civ, probably Tokugawa again, though I haven't seen a leader shot yet (something about Tojo, just doesn't sit right)

[SerapisIV]

quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 on 05-14-2001 03:12 PM Thank you Serapis about the indian leader, Can someone with a knowledge of the Indians of America give some suggestions about the identity of this indian leader? This leader in connection with the Iroquois example that roman pointed out strongly suggests Iroquois (no matter that the Aztecs are certaintly in as well).

I think it'll be Sioux out of tradition and cause they can think of a leader, Sitting Bull, I only brought up the Iroquois because that tribe has been mentioned before, and I'm pretty sure they were stronger then the Sioux, with their Six Nations council in the colonial times. The problem is in the screenshot they show short round houses, Sioux while the Iroquois built long houses. However the background is forest, Iroquois, while the Sioux where a great plains tribe. Can anyone think of an Iroquois leader? What tribe was Tecumseh from?

[JamesJKirk]

Tecumseh was Shawnee, which was an Iroquois tribe, but that was before Tecumseh was around, and by then, the Shawnee were further inland. Joseph Brant, or Thayendanegea, was the leader of 4 of the 6 nations during the Revolutionary War.

[Bereta_Eder]

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[Bereta_Eder]

So, so far we know that:

GREEKS ARE IN
AMERICANS ARE IN
GERMANS ARE IN
CHINESE ARE IN
ROMANS ARE IN
FRENCH ARE IN
RUSSIANS ARE IN
ZULUS ARE IN
ENGLISH ARE IN
AZTECS ARE IN
JAPANESE ARE IN (open for debate plz see the samurai(?) unit at http://viewer.fgnonline.com/fgn_medi...ws%2Funits.jpg
INDIAN TRIBE IS IN (we are not sure which one yet)

Do we know for certain that the number of civs will be exactly 16?


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[SerapisIV]

What about the Mongols? There need to be more Asian leaders and Genghis conquered more then Alexander the Great did.

[SerapisIV]

Also, out of tradition, almost certainly the Egyptians (Ramses II) and the Babylonians (Hammurabi). Does anyone doubt that these two Civs won't be in CivIII? Especially as more "civilized, perfectionist" (ala Civ2) cvis need to be in the game as most of the list are conquering nations

[Bereta_Eder]

quote: Originally posted by SerapisIV on 05-14-2001 04:03 PM What about the Mongols? There need to be more Asian leaders and Genghis conquered more then Alexander the Great did.

Yes, it is only logical that Genghis and the Mongols must be in (does anyone remember how damn funny the pissed off face of Genghis looked like in Civ 1 ). But for the needs of this thread we must have hard evidence (city names, leader face, definite written mention, 100% recognisable unic unit) before we include them.

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[Bereta_Eder]

Take a look at this: http://viewer.fgnonline.com/fgn_medi...ticadvisor.jpg

Are Canadians in?????
Where the hell is Guam???

Also plz have a look at civ III section in Apolyton. Look at the face of that guy next to the indian leader. Is this Genghis Chan?

Can these leaders be military leaders instead of civ leader?
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[Cyclotron]

Guam is a US Territory.

I am pretty sure the other picture is the leader of the Iriquois. Those huts in the backround look like Iriquois construction... They were mentioned elsewhere too, so I'm pretty sure they're in.

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[Bereta_Eder]

Oh, ok. Sorry about that. Didn't know it

I'll add that Iroquis are most propable indian tribe. I'm waiting to see what you think about the face next to the Indian. I'd say 90% is our friend Genghins

[SilverDragon]

Egypt is in, and so is India. There are seven screenshots of leaders in Computer Gaming World:

Mao Tse Tung
An Egyptian pharoah
Abraham Lincoln
Caesar
Mahatma Ghandi
Joan of Arc
Elizabeth I