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quote: Originally posted by Pangaea on 12-20-2000 04:26 PM The happy face on the shield turns to a sad face...  |
the happy face is gorgo medusa, a favorite motive on the greek hoplon (shield of the hoplites).
i really like the way these units are.
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the happy face is gorgo medusa, a favorite motive on the greek hoplon (shield of the hoplites).
i really like the way these units are.
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Originally posted by Evil Capitalist on 12-20-2000 04:36 PM
And a guarantee that there will be no unit workshop!
I didnt think of that. But now, then your mention it, i agree. No unit workshop. good!
The rifleman (that looks like a musketeer) is likely to be available as a 18:th century tech in the game. So, it should be a quick job changing the name-convention to the proper one: musketeer.
About the hat: well, im sure that the graphic artist in question have worked from some authentic military costumes history-book. It seems to me, that this would be the most likely method to go about it.
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When I just got on Apolyton just now, that is the first thing I saw!! Finally! They look awesome!
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It's quite interesting that Firaxis have named one of the units the Panzer Tank because it's names specific to one country i.e. Germany.
It just could be that they are acknowledging the ones who were the first to take real advantage of the Tank in warfare, or maybe is it that the Technology around World War 2 is more represented in Civ3.
I've seen posts from Firaxis which have stated that Leader Unit's, and the ability to cut certain supplies to a Civ are featured in the game. All feature's suited to WW2 Style Warfare, especially Supply.
So are we perhap's going to see unit's such as Dive Bombers (Stukas), or Stormtroopers, U-boats, Flying Bombs or Suicide Pilot(Kamakazi)? All Units which hint at a particular country, but named in a way not to sound too specific to one particular Civ, but rather specific to a Facist or National Socialist Goverment type.
Will there be an advanced type of tank that comes available later in the game that replaces the Panzer Tank?
This is all speculation of course, but I think there's more to the Panzer Tank than meets the eye!
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Very nice. Well the graphics are good...I hope that's a GOOD sign...yes the 'rifleman' looked a lot more like a 18th century musketeer."Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
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um, no one jump on me, or start an argument, cause thats not what I am trying to do here, but I just want to make a comment:
'Panzer' tanks could belong to any country, but the worrd 'panzer' is not a military unit in Germany, its word that means, "Tank" in the German language (so essentialy it is a german), so I dont know why they called it the 'panzer tank'. cause thats just like saying tank twice in a row, once in English, once in German. please, Firaxis, if its not too late, please change the name to something more realistic, something like, 'MBT', meaning: Main Battle Tank. or just something way simpler, like, Heavy Tank, or something. oh well, if you cant, thats alright, I wont complain about the very first thing we've gotten for civ3 from you.
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The way that phalanx is designed makes me think the interface(land) for civ3 is going to look a lot like warcraft 3's. whaddya think?Comment
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First off, I'd like to say that those units look amazing. However, "Panzer" could refer to any tank built by the Germans. I hope that the actually names of tanks will be used in the final release, it would make it that much more like if one was actually leading a civilization.
On another note, the release of unit graphics means that there will not be a unit workshop, unless Firaxis decides to make both the workshop as well as some default units, for the not so customization-inclined.*grumbles about work*Comment
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I believe that these unit graphics look much to like Test of Time's to, and thus are horrible for the game; but If you showed me all of them on a real map then perhaps I may like them, but right now I believe they are rendered badly (Test of Time style)
Test of Time was far too dark; now these are not dark, but they look so much like the ToT units it makes me suspicious.-->Visit CGN!
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On another note, the release of unit graphics means that there will not be a unit workshop
Well, to be fair also SMAC unit has some graphics
but I see your point and I'm afraid you are right.
What a pity!
To be true I think that released images are more artwork than real unit look, because that detail can't been sustained at normal unit dimension... at least if not played on a 42" screen at ultra high resolution.
Also CTPII first images come from artwork AFAIK...
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Diablo,
I believe "Panzer" in German actually means "Armour" not "Tank". Although tanks in Germany are refered to as "Panzer's", it's only like how in the UK/USA a Division of tanks is refered to as a Armoured Division (German=Panzer Division). It's just that when it comes down to individual unit's we like to call them "Tank's".
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The Kraizer:
first of all, please dont miss-understand this, I do NOT want to start an argument, I just want to verify your post. In English terms today, 'Armour', and 'Tank' are pretty much the same when it comes to military divisions. also, I am studying German right now, the word 'Panzer' does fit with both phrases, 'Armour' and 'Tank'. I was just saying that Panzer Tank would be like saying, "Armour Tank." (as you put it) or "Tank Tank." in English. but then again, I am not exactly sure, if there is a German guy here, please verify this.
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I'm not entirely sure how you infer the lack of a unit workshop ipso facto from the publication of concept art for three units. It is possible for Civ3 to come with a unit workshop which offers you a choice of appropriate unit graphics for whatever you construct. All we can tell is that it wont be using the SMAC 'paper doll' technique. Hurrah!
The description panzer tank for a unit that looks almost exactly like a Panzer III is a good idea IMO. We don't even know what tech it is linked to (assuming no unit workshop.) Fascism could, for instance, deliver the Stormtrooper, Panzer, Stuka, Doodlebug and Gestapo units if they wanted to go wild
It certainly looks like there will be a variety of tank types at last! WWII scenarios with different tank models for different sides will be so much more atmospheric. 
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These graphics are unbelievable! All to all those crybabies that are upset over the riflemen: Get a friggin' life! These graphics are better than you could ever do so I don't see any reason to complain about them. My heartfelt thanks and congrats go out to the Civ3 team on this one! Absolutely beautiful!Comment
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*rubs eyes*
OMG CIV3 NEWS!!!
Oh yeah wakes up from coma
very nice...
+'s on the tank, bugs me, also I agree didn't most colonial guys have muskets anyway not rifles
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