a personal view as to why civ3 doest cut it.

[hexagonian]

Originally posted by jimmytrick
I guess I'll look for a copy Ogie.

C'mon jimmy, join the dark side...

You too, TKG!!!

There's a CTP2 Mod with your name on it.

[Maquiladora]

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Originally posted by TKG
"if you hate civ3 that much, why are you in the civ3 forum?" you ask? actually, to find a thread like this one

so true

You should really try CtP2, people never go there to complain anymore, all you get is plain honest answers.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Y'know, I STILL haven't finished a game of Civ3. I was actually getting kinda bored with it after a certain point as well, thinking much the same as others - I WANTED to love it, but it just didn't thrill me.

Since being in the Democracy game, I have learned a lot. People more enthusiastic than I have taken what the game CAN do, found strategies and tactics to make it fun. I have learned what these things are, and as a result, applying them to my own games has helped me realise the full fun potential of the game.

I. like many, expected a truly flawless game in Civ3. But the combination of diminishing returns (Civ really can't get much better than Civ2 easily) and overhype in my own mind let me down, not the game itself. As with all things, you just have to find out what fun you CAN have, and maximise that. Culture is something you can't find in any other game (to the best of my knowledge), the excitement of every Elite battle (will I get a GL?), and manipulating alliances and MPPs to turn the entire world into a slaughter against your one big enemy is what is fun here that you won't find elsewhere.

Yeah this game can be disappointing at first, but if you take the time to get into it enough that those inital expectations are forgotten, and you learn what the game CAN do for you, you can have monstrous fun.

[vondrack]

Amen.

Very well said, MrWhereItsAt!

I truly believe that most people spending their time learning the game instead of complaining how it fails to meet (their) expectations, will eventually find out its an excellent game. Not a perfect one, but still one of the best in the genre. And that it is getting better and better with every patch.

[Meshelic]

It's speeches like that MrWhereItsAt that landed you the Presidency in the C3DG! Bravo

I didn't know what to expect when I first got Civ3. I had already long overplayed Civ2, desperately wishing for a multiplayer version (which was granted in PTW finally), but I really liked the culture additions. I loved how the cities had actual BORDERS rather than Civ2, which really sucked in that aspect.

Sure, it's missing some things. What about unit naming? More governments would be nice! ABSOLUTELY more expanded espionage and diplomatic functions should be put in.

Civ 4 looks a long way off....