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  • #46
    Originally posted by Theseus
    For a second I misread that, and thought you were referring to Aeson's SVC game!!
    SVC is more of a start to die from. I know I nearly had a heart attack when I first opened that thread.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Arrian
      Here is something along the lines of what I was talking about...
      That's a great one! There are plenty of floodplains with wheat near by too.

      Olaf HÃ¥rfagre: To answer your question. I would give that Arrian map a 9. If it also has iron and luxury near by, it would definitely get a 9 and 1/2 in my book. If it also has iron and luxury near by and it's also on a large continent, it would be a 10 or a perfect starting position to die for.

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      • #48
        Of course you don't know in the beginning, whether or not there is iron.
        Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Arrian
          Here is something along the lines of what I was talking about...
          Yeah, I agree that's a good one. A little more bonus shields, golden hills, luxuries, iron and less desert would make it perfect, but it's anyway the best capitol location I have seen on a random map. If only the surrounding terrain is similar, then you are set for a nice game. Do you have a 4000 BC save?
          So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
          Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Tuberski
            Of course you don't know in the beginning, whether or not there is iron.
            And horse too. How did you guys get The Wheel to begin with? I checked the game manual and none of the civ starting out with The Wheel.

            Olaf HÃ¥rfagre: I look up a couple of my game last night, but found none that could beat the starting position above.

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            • #51
              The Japanese have one of the opening techs The Wheel.

              Edited: ...and as you can see, both Theseus and Arrian have posted screenshots with japanese.
              Last edited by Tiberius; September 19, 2002, 09:26.
              "The only way to avoid being miserable is not to have enough leisure to wonder whether you are happy or not. "
              --George Bernard Shaw
              A fast word about oral contraception. I asked a girl to go to bed with me and she said "no".
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Olaf HÃ¥rfagre


                Yeah, I agree that's a good one. A little more bonus shields, golden hills, luxuries, iron and less desert would make it perfect, but it's anyway the best capitol location I have seen on a random map. If only the surrounding terrain is similar, then you are set for a nice game. Do you have a 4000 BC save?
                It's funny... I was searching through my saved games and came upon "NewJapan" I opened it, and it was the 4000bc save (yeah, I still have it, I can post it tonight if you want). I didn't recall ever playing it out. So, despite the fact that I had a successful Aztec game going, I started playing. This was around 6pm. I shut down the computer at 3:30am. It's a 10/10, Moonsinger.

                If there is any interest, I will post the 4000bc save.

                -Arrian
                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Tuberski
                  Okay Theseus, what resource mod are you using?
                  Okay, I recognize the Wheat, and I'm assuming that's a Carosel Horse prancing around but what does the purple Kool-Aid represent? Wine? Is this the "Kindergarten Resource Mod"?
                  Proud member of the Hawk Party.

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                  • #54
                    For anyone who lives in the northeast US, that's Happy, the Carvel Whale!!

                    The resource mod is here, if anybody wants it:

                    The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

                    Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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                    • #55
                      The German starting position on Marla Singers Earth map beats anything I have seen. But that's not a random map and each AI turn takes 15-20 minutes in the industrial age on my old 450 PII. Wait until November when I get my 2.53 Ghz P4 with 512 MB RAM and 128 MB Geforce4, then I will give it a try.
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                      So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                      Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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                      • #56
                        Olaf,

                        Since you asked, here is the 4000bc save for the screenshot I posted. It's a standard, continents, 8 civs, normal, normal, 4 billion map. Japan, cultural linking on.

                        -Arrian
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                        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                        • #57
                          Move Germany's settler onto the hill!!
                          The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

                          Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Theseus
                            Move Germany's settler onto the hill!!
                            Absolutely!

                            Defense bonus and ALL the specials in the city radius.
                            Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                            • #59
                              The only thing I am unsure of is whether or not it can still get to size 12 if moved to the hill.

                              I (think) it can.
                              Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Theseus
                                Move Germany's settler onto the hill!!
                                I normally do. Anyway, Marla's map is to big to play on my old 450 PII computer so this screenshot is not from a game I was actually going to play. I might give it a try in November when I get my new computer.
                                Last edited by Chemical Ollie; September 19, 2002, 19:39.
                                So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                                Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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