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  • #31
    Originally posted by Sabre2th
    . . . but civ3 seems to be a bit half-assed.
    Yea, I noticed.



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    • #32
      I think that when they code some of these things for English it's hard to do accurate translations because of the differences in grammar. Seria dificil implementar las reglas de concordancia. Al menos eso es mi opinion.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Alfonso
        ya que mi Inglés es muy malo.
        Your English isn't that bad. Better than my Spanish (Latin actually).
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        • #34
          Originally posted by jsw363
          I think that when they code some of these things for English it's hard to do accurate translations because of the differences in grammar. Seria dificil implementar las reglas de concordancia. Al menos eso es mi opinion.
          That would have to know it Firaxis, and to give facilities so that it is possible to be translated.

          Originally posted by notyoueither
          Your English isn't that bad. Better than my Spanish (Latin actually).
          Thanks, you are very amiable.
          El futuro pertenece a quienes creen en la belleza de sus sueños.
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          • #35
            Alfonso, you are completely right. I owned the German version of Civ and Civ2 and the translation was just as bad. It really took away a lot of the atmosphere.

            Infogrames should make sure they hire capable translators.

            What I also fail to understand is how they don't seem to be able to bring out patches for foreign versions. Today I read that there might be no German patch 1.29 and I am very happy I bought the US-version. But what about those that don't understand English good enough to play an English version of the game?

            Most of the game/publishing companies have no problems with that, they normally even manage to bring out the patches for different language versions at the same time as for the English ones. But not Infogrames...... *grumble*

            Well... next time buy the English version if you can. Your English sure is good enough to understand it (esp. if it is a strategy game).

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            • #36
              Seems like the translators aren't native speakers of the target language. They should always be.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Todd Hawks
                Alfonso, you are completely right. I owned the German version of Civ and Civ2 and the translation was just as bad. It really took away a lot of the atmosphere.

                Infogrames should make sure they hire capable translators.

                What I also fail to understand is how they don't seem to be able to bring out patches for foreign versions. Today I read that there might be no German patch 1.29 and I am very happy I bought the US-version. But what about those that don't understand English good enough to play an English version of the game?

                Most of the game/publishing companies have no problems with that, they normally even manage to bring out the patches for different language versions at the same time as for the English ones. But not Infogrames...... *grumble*

                Well... next time buy the English version if you can. Your English sure is good enough to understand it (esp. if it is a strategy game).
                Todd Hawks:

                I bought the two versions, the Spanish and the English, I do not have Problem to play the English version, but it does not seem well to me what they have done with the Spanish version.
                El futuro pertenece a quienes creen en la belleza de sus sueños.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Optimizer
                  Seems like the translators aren't native speakers of the target language. They should always be.
                  Yes Sir Optimizer...!! That is one of the problems...
                  El futuro pertenece a quienes creen en la belleza de sus sueños.
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                  • #39
                    Infogrames Interactive is the place to go. They are the guys you need to go to for translations.

                    You need to contact them if you want to translate the Diplomacy.txt file... even if it's only Latin (Heaven forbid Infogrames Interactive would lose money in Vatican City )
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Thrawn05
                      Infogrames Interactive is the place to go. They are the guys you need to go to for translations.

                      You need to contact them if you want to translate the Diplomacy.txt file... even if it's only Latin (Heaven forbid Infogrames Interactive would lose money in Vatican City )
                      Thrawn05: Thought very well, already we will see that the Pope thinks
                      El futuro pertenece a quienes creen en la belleza de sus sueños.
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                      • #41
                        Actual if I buy a localized version of a game then I expect that it is well done. At least the most obvious stuff should be fixed before. But it is poor that Firaxis can't program their boxes so that the strings could be easily replaced by other ones. IIRC the release of the German version was postponed, because they had trouble with the translation program. Even if their robot translation is very good, it must always be checked afterwards by hand. Fortunatly I did not tryed the German version...

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Martin Gühmann
                          Actual if I buy a localized version of a game then I expect that it is well done. At least the most obvious stuff should be fixed before. But it is poor that Firaxis can't program their boxes so that the strings could be easily replaced by other ones. IIRC the release of the German version was postponed, because they had trouble with the translation program. Even if their robot translation is very good, it must always be checked afterwards by hand. Fortunatly I did not tryed the German version...

                          -Martin

                          Perhaps I should restate my point before a Firaxian is crucified over this. Firaxis only programed the game. Infogrames Interactive are in charge of the marketing and translations. Don't target the wrong people.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Optimizer
                            Seems like the translators aren't native speakers of the target language. They should always be.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by DarkCloud
                              Aren't there 3 official languages in Spain.
                              Catalan, Basque and Spanish?
                              In fact, there are 4: Catalan, Basque, Galician (from Galicia) and Spanish

                              I also agree with Optimizer: the translator must be native speaker of the language to translate to...
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by yaroslav


                                In fact, there are 4: Catalan, Basque, Galician (from Galicia) and Spanish

                                I also agree with Optimizer: the translator must be native speaker of the language to translate to...
                                I repeat, that the problem of the translation, is not by the languages that there are in Spain.
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