Yes - It's More AI CHEATING!

[Jaguar]

Oh, yea, my mistake. You can continue building the obselete unit when you hook up the resource for the new one, and that was what I was thinking of.

[Lord Merciless]

I think Firaxis made the mistake of creating a game that is intellectually too challenged for many people.

[Grumbold]

Do you mean challenging? Intellectually challenged would infer the opposite, i.e. that the game is too stupid.

I certainly agree that the difficulty level is now significantly higher than Civ I or II so some people may be upset that they cannot defeat say emperor mode with the same consummate ease as the previous games.

[Panag]

hi ,

the AI knows the nation behind a unit that is flagged 'hidden nationality" , ....

have a nice day

[TacticalGrace]

Originally posted by panag
hi ,

the AI knows the nation behind a unit that is flagged 'hidden nationality" , ....

have a nice day

So would I though. It should be pretty obvious. Having said that I've never seen the AI use a privateer...

[Panag]

Originally posted by TacticalGrace


So would I though. It should be pretty obvious. Having said that I've never seen the AI use a privateer...

hi ,

its not only with the privateer , its also when you flag it in a mod or scenario, with other units

have a nice day

[Level]

If you pay attention you can tell also but you can't start a war with it.

[Lord Merciless]

Originally posted by Grumbold
Do you mean challenging? Intellectually challenged would infer the opposite, i.e. that the game is too stupid.

I certainly agree that the difficulty level is now significantly higher than Civ I or II so some people may be upset that they cannot defeat say emperor mode with the same consummate ease as the previous games.

Maybe the game is too easy for you, but most whinings I see here are people who got their ass kicked by the AI. Then they went on whining about how much the AI cheats. In most cases, their claims were unsupported and unsubstantiated, like the thread starter.

[Grumbold]

Originally posted by Lord Merciless
Maybe the game is too easy for you, but most whinings I see here are people who got their ass kicked by the AI. Then they went on whining about how much the AI cheats. In most cases, their claims were unsupported and unsubstantiated, like the thread starter.

That was my point - the game is intellectually challenging, not intellectually challenged. So some people understandably feel that, with the much stronger AI in the latest Civ game, that there is no need for it to play in an annoying style or by different rules to the human opponent. For example not respecting your borders for at least a few turns after agreeing to retreat. Areas where it seems the AI is cheating are therefore especially hot topics and produce a lot of extreme language on both sides. Kicking someone for not having savegame proof or using the emotive language like 'whining' is hardly helpful. Do you save all your games every turn in case you want to haul it up in evidence for the amateur judge and jury panel on Apolyton? I certainly don't.

[TacticalGrace]

Well so far I haven't seen any evidence that the AI "cheats" more than human players.

[Hurricane]

Originally posted by Grumbold
Do you save all your games every turn in case you want to haul it up in evidence for the amateur judge and jury panel on Apolyton? I certainly don't.

If I decide to start a thread called "More AI CHEATING!!!" I will DEFINITELY back up my claims with some save game evidence.

[Grumbold]

Well I'm sure the original poster feels the same way, if s/he ever bothers to come back to talk to such a hostile audience again. Perhaps they were expecting a slightly more sympathetic reception but all experienced Apolytoners know that if you declare something as a fact rather than stating it is your belief and humbly asking for enlightenment from the founts of wisdom then someone somewhere will rip your head off for doing so....

[Galvatron]

Well I can back this statement 100% the AI cheats like hell it's even more than in Civ II. Furthermore the AI is overly aggressive: They reject my demands all the time, they often declare war due to minor incidents (e.g. some very small demands from my side) and in the end you are being hatred by the whole world. I assume the AI is special programmed to hamper the human civ whenever possible.

[Zachriel]

Originally posted by Galvatron
Well I can back this statement 100% the AI cheats like hell it's even more than in Civ II. Furthermore the AI is overly aggressive: They reject my demands all the time, they often declare war due to minor incidents (e.g. some very small demands from my side) and in the end you are being hatred by the whole world. I assume the AI is special programmed to hamper the human civ whenever possible.

I find it relatively easy to control the political situation in most games. I can usually avoid war for as long as necesssary, or attract allies to my side. In "German Valor," I had so much native land to settle that I put off war until the Age of Panzers. Plus I wanted to test my blitzkrieg technique against mature, culturally advanced rivals.

http://www.zachriel.com/gotm8/

If the AI is programmed to hamper the human civ, they shouldn't have let me advance unhindered until I had Panzers.

[TacticalGrace]

Originally posted by Galvatron
Well I can back this statement 100% the AI cheats like hell it's even more than in Civ II.

Example?

Furthermore the AI is overly aggressive: They reject my demands all the time,

We have already established that you do the same. Why should they give up for free what they have earned?

they often declare war due to minor incidents (e.g. some very small demands from my side)

Most human players will declare war with no reason whatsoever.

and in the end you are being hatred by the whole world. I assume the AI is special programmed to hamper the human civ whenever possible.

What we have to establish is whether the AI civs give each other special treatment or whether it treats the human player just like any other civ. Given the way you seem to play, making demands of the other civs etc it shouldn't surprising that they declare war on you.