1.29f PATCH README

[El hidalgo]

Re: Still one fatal flaw not resolved

Originally posted by Colwyn
Also hate road/rail sprawl + no terain bonus's should be like CTP ie as per needed only ie mainly connecting cities resources etc. (though railroads gave a bonus there too)

Workers are a pain and a waste of time, public works as per CTP is definetly needed.

I just can's see why the game needs to turn every inch of the planet into railroads and plains. Looks ugly and unreal.

If the above things were done the game would be very good (events and the ai always not building a large enough army later in the game aside)

I always thought that if they would just add an upkeep cost for roads and railroads then it would stop making sense to plaster them everywhere and you'd only place them where you absolutely needed to, i.e. to connect cities to each other and to resources. Oh well, I'm dreaming again.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Machi
Does the AI get that benefit as well? If so, then it's really just a tool to have more things in general in the world, as though they just halved the costs for everything.

It's just a preamble for PtW, something to get used to. Otherwise MP games will take forever. I guess they figured we might appreciate one of the features a bit early.

[cbraund]

I love it, it means more battles in the ancient age before you enter medieval.

Chris

[Machi]

Does the AI get that benefit as well? If so, then it's really just a tool to have more things in general in the world, as though they just halved the costs for everything.

[Thrawn05]

Originally posted by Jaybe
AUTO saves are no longer compressed. You can designate how many auto-saves there are (new in 1.29). The time taken in compressing the auto-saves was drawing complaints since they were automatically happening every turn. You still have the option (I think?) of whether to compress your manual saves.

People can't wait a second to save?!?


I'm going to have to uncheck auto saves and have to do a manual saves every turn. FIRAXIS FIX THIS!!!!! , oh, and

[cbraund]

Originally posted by Machi
Does the AI get that benefit as well? If so, then it's really just a tool to have more things in general in the world, as though they just halved the costs for everything.

Yes the AI gets it too.

Chris

[Machi]

Originally posted by Willem


It's just a preamble for PtW, something to get used to. Otherwise MP games will take forever. I guess they figured we might appreciate one of the features a bit early.

What do PtW and MP mean?

[Spiffor]

Machi :
PtW means Play the World, Civ3's expansion due this fall.
MP means MultiPlayer.

[Level]

Play the world and Multi Player

[Willem]

Originally posted by Thrawn05


People can't wait a second to save?!?


I'm going to have to uncheck auto saves and have to do a manual saves every turn. FIRAXIS FIX THIS!!!!! , oh, and

Why? It's much better this way, turns were already long enough without adding the autosave compression on top. If you're not happy with this, then you're definitely in the minority!

[tatterdemalion]

Patch has Culmulative effect?

I haven't played Civ3 in a while, so I am out of touch. Do I need to load each of the patches in succession or is the lastest patch culmulative for all patches?

[Willem]

Re: Patch has Culmulative effect?

Originally posted by tatterdemalion
I haven't played Civ3 in a while, so I am out of touch. Do I need to load each of the patches in succession or is the lastest patch culmulative for all patches?

All you need is the latest one, iit will include the changes made in the others.

[tatterdemalion]

thanks for the quick reply, willem!!

[nano_time]

Originally posted by Amadan

Firaxis desreves some respect for the time it puts in to creating FREE upgrades to their games!

I aggree!

[Steve Clark]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Was it advertised as a scenario editor? All they said was "editor." I don't recall them making a big deal about scenarios.

At any rate, I did get my biggest wants (civ placement, minimap, adding units), but am a little disappointed you can't set diplomacy. But most of the changes/additions are VERY welcome.

Boris, you have been around a little while (unlike some of the ignorant posters here) to know that Firaxis and some here were hyping this as a scenario editor. They even said that they expect fans to create custom scenarios to be included in PtW and they said that the community will get a head start on making scenarios. The problem is that...

we still cannot make scenarios.

Firaxis apparently have forgotten what Civ scenarios are because it is insulting to think that with the advanced map editor, one can make true Civ scenarios. I wish everyone here, including Firaxis, would stop kidding themselves. But with Firaxis promoting "scenarios" and with the mod community thinking that they are making "scenarios", I really wonder what to expect in PtW? Will they keep promoting this lie?

And you wonder why those that made hundreds or thousands of posts in Civ3 forums are not around anymore (with an exception of a few)?