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    Shall we try to put up a few summaries of the "chat". Personally I think UberKrux hit the target before his demise.
    We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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  • #2
    Ya catch more flies with honey is all I can say...

    LOL "Civ 3 general moved to the bottom"
    "Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
    "...Mangy dog staggering about, looking vainly for a place to die."
    "sauna stories? There are no 'sauna stories'.. I mean.. sauna is sauna. You do by the laws of sauna." -P.

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    • #3
      The chat can easily be summerized in two words that were repeated by the members of the civ3 dev team who seemed to be stuck in an infinate loop. "NO COMMENT" They're not winning any friends with their current attitude towards their end user, I'll tell you that

      Everyone choses a path eventually, right or wrong, and I think Fireaxes is going down the wrong one, but best of luck to them and their company


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      • #4
        Originally posted by Seeker
        Ya catch more flies with honey is all I can say...

        LOL "Civ 3 general moved to the bottom"
        I'm sorry I dont get that
        We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
        If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
        Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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        • #5
          It was what the Firaxians said they'd like to see the next time they come to Apolyton , the Civ 3 general forum moved to the bottom of the list.

          It was a joke, because of all the 'negative' reviews.

          And catching more flies with honey refers to the people calling the firaxis guys 'idiots', spamming with their names, etc.
          "Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
          "...Mangy dog staggering about, looking vainly for a place to die."
          "sauna stories? There are no 'sauna stories'.. I mean.. sauna is sauna. You do by the laws of sauna." -P.

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          • #6
            Well I think that some people do overdo it a little (even when they're humorous). I missed the early part of the chat, the java version didnt work for me so I missed Uberkrux comments and banishment. I agreed with UberKrux sentiments if not his method in his closed thread. Up until this afternoon I was patient (I think). I thought the patch looked great but then I found that we couldnt add units. They then failed to mention anywhere that this would be the case, and then refused to comment on the matter when repeatedly asked during the "chat".

            I dont know why firaxis persists in this fashion? I mistakenly believed things were changing, but they're not.
            Last edited by SpencerH; April 19, 2002, 18:59.
            We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
            If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
            Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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            • #7
              Here's a summary:
              whine,whine, obnoxious whine.
              Sorry....nothing to say!

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              • #8
                Well, seems like I didn't miss anything.

                Whining from the MP people, No comments from Firaxis.

                Things I am already used to on this forum. Except, Firaxis won't even post a no comment in the forum.

                Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                • #9
                  I don't blame Firaxis one bit. It is well known that they can't comment on things too far in the future.
                  Sorry....nothing to say!

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                  • #10
                    Everyone should cool their jets. Gramphos is already in the process of updating his utilities. One is already done.

                    It seems like they were figuring out the compression method, so hopefully his save editor will be updated too.

                    I think it was pretty predictable that there would be a barrage of protest about certain changes. Firaxis must have known that going in.

                    The biggest point of it is, if they are still here talking, they are most likely still working on the game. Same old story. Come back and check in from time to time. Meanwhile, some of us will continue to play and give feed-back to Firaxis.
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                    • #11
                      Feedback that may, or may not, even be wanted. Because it's never confirmed. Firaxis doesn't have to say what they are doing, but " We'll take it under advisement" is better than nothing.
                      Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                      • #12
                        NYE you must be the most mellow guy I've seen on these forums. I had smoke commin out of my ears!
                        We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                        If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                        Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                        • #13
                          I read somewhere that the compression is standard zip compression. That may be useful to someone.
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                          • #14
                            Summary? Oh yeah... OK. Here's from my perspective.

                            Some MP die hards certainly made their presence felt. Some had a very chaotic influence. Mark, true to form allowed alot of divergent opinions to be expressed.

                            'No Comment' is the official motto of Firaxis about any and all future plans, even the tiny ones. Hense it was hard to ask a lot of the meaningful questions. They replied NC to many types of questions they answered in the previous chat.

                            The editor is still a work in progress.

                            It is dangerous for computers when it rains in Hunt Valley (I think that was a code).

                            Major changes to game mechanics are now out of bounds for the developers. They are working on tuning, the editor (and MP according to Sid, not from the chat).

                            Soren indicated the AI should be much more resilient in it's unit choices.

                            Mark and Soren seemed to be very interested in any questions by the creative types. Gramphos obviously would be paid attention to, but others as well. Of course, the creative types had questions about the current editor and files, etc. Many of the rest of us were asking a lot of forward looking questions to which we received... 'No Comment'

                            I made a twot of myself by losing my brain when I got a chance to ask a few questions and deluged the chat with too many in too short an order... Oh well. What's new? Some others made bigger twots of themselves in other ways.

                            That's about all I can recall right at the moment. I'm sure other people will remember other things of significance.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Summaries of the chat

                              Originally posted by SpencerH
                              Shall we try to put up a few summaries of the "chat". Personally I think UberKrux hit the target before his demise.
                              No comment.


                              Seriously, I have no comment, because I learned little from it.
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