I challenge you to find...

[Expatriate]

An a game that has an active online community, where the boards do NOT get rants and complaints similar to those seen here.


You wont find it, but good luck trying. A few good examples of recently published games where this is the case would be Anarchy Online, Dark Age of Camelot and offcourse Civilization III.

No game can live up to the hype created by the fans themselves.

[Yolky]

UMMM.........................

HMMM. I beleive the HYPE was created by Firaxis on thier web sit before Civ3 was released and Infogrames on thier advertisments.

I for one believed the HYPE and got the Special Edtion. What highway robbery.

HMM. Lets have a poll here. Who did the Hyping? The company or the fans?

I believe it was the companies as I said before. Us fans were just dying for Civ3 to come out with the promises of what to come. I know everything was said about what it came and not came with or what it has and dosnt had.

So who was it.

Expatriate what is your opnion?

Davor

[Expatriate]

My point here is that most of the things you see people complaining about are thing they only complain about because someone else brought it to their attention.

If you had played Civ III without ever read anyone else rant and complain about it, you would have been happy.

But why not take up my challenge instead of blaming Firaxis? You wont find that holy grail of perfect gaming anywhere, because once there is an online community the unhappiness is contagious.

[ACooper]

It's just normal human psychology for people to jump on the bandwagon, especially if it is something negative. You see a lot of that here and in other forums. Your point is well taken.



BTW Yolky, it's not hype, it's marketing. I believe they delivered on all their promises.

[SlowwHand]

They never said it would be SP only.

[ACooper]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
They never said it would be SP only.

Umm... Yes they did. More than a month before the released the game. It was major news on any of the Civ sites

[Yolky]

Again I will not go into what was promised and what wasn't.

If i never notice any threads I still would be P'D OFF since I can't have starting locations for any Civs in the editor, as an example.(lets not get into that again its been hashed again and again) but I do see you point though.

I am having fun with the game but miss my diplomats and other stealth units ala CtP2.

Having fun and hope you are too.

Davor

[TechWins]

If you actually did read this board over the summer then you would know that Firaxis made many promises that failed to come true. You may call them marketing schemes, which is true to some extent, but I would like to call them blatant lies.

[Phoenix]

I can only speak for myself, but I played the game through a couple times before I even read any of these posts. So I must disagree completely with Expatriate. The fact that people complain could probably be interperted more productively as meaning that game deign needs to be better, not that the public should expect less.

People always complain about their government, does this mean the government should ignore those complaints? Would they stop complaining if they didn't hear it from someone else first? No and no. Same principle, just exaggerated.

[ACooper]

Originally posted by TechWins
If you actually did read this board over the summer then you would know that Firaxis made many promises that failed to come true. You may call them marketing schemes, which is true to some extent, but I would like to call them blatant lies.

Maybe broken promises at worst. Bad marketing sure. They souldn't have told ungratefull spoiled brats anything.


BTW, I have been here since 1999. I haven't posted much in the past, but I can't stand to sit by while the negative people have nothing better to do than post their lies. How bout some honesty from yourself before riping on a poor helpless company.

[quicksilver417]

I got the hype from, my cuzin
he showed me his diety american in future age and i just said, wow!!!

[yin26]

The Europa Universalis boards lack virtually ANY of the rants you see here. And when the occasional rants shows up, the developers are usually quick to address the concerns in an open, public and consistent way.

And then for some mysterious reason, the rants subside and productive talk begins. Coincidence? Hmmm....

[yin26]

Europa Universalis.

Here's another. Space Empires 4. Also widely and publically supported by its developers.

And then we have Poly. Gee...

[Ironikinit]

TRUE DAT.

The EU forums don't have much flames at all. And when somebody shows up complaining about how the game crashes or how bad the AI is, the community makes fun of them and tells them to calm down.

The Sissyfight boards only allow rants and flames in one forum. There are a few cranks who stick around to complain about the game but not many.

[ACooper]

The EU forums don't have much flames at all. And when somebody shows up complaining about how the game crashes or how bad the AI is, the community makes fun of them and tells them to calm down.

Is this support for us whiners of whiners?