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[Dis]

my post above was sarcasm. Now firaxis has seen it, now they think they have created the greatest game ever. It will go to their heads. we are doomed.

[yin26]

As I said, those 24 other games didn't pretend to be anything but a decent time killer. Civ3 pretended to be more, and I consider it quite fortunate that I didn't put ANY money in the Firaxis pocket for their garbage beta.

[korn469]

you're up early Yin

if this was the matrix instead of saying
remember its not the spoon that moves, it is your mind that moves
they would tell you
remember it isn't civ3 that is good, it is your mind that thinks it is

[ACooper]

Originally posted by yin26
As I said, those 24 other games didn't pretend to be anything but a decent time killer. Civ3 pretended to be more, and I consider it quite fortunate that I didn't put ANY money in the Firaxis pocket for their garbage beta.

Oh, ok. Now that explains everything.

[korn469]

die database error die!

[yin26]

Sha_g: English language giving you problems today?

Korn: Yeah, the 3 year-old did her pre-dawn assault this morning.

[lockstep]

Originally posted by yin26
As I said, those 24 other games didn't pretend to be anything but a decent time killer.

You said 'momentary', but maybe that's just 'decent' with a typo.

[yin26]

If I look in the bargain bin and see a $12 shooter, I think to myself: If it has even one good level in it, I'll consider myself lucky. Otherwise, move on. But when we start talking about setting new standards for the genre and allowing the player to live out his historical curiousity through a rich and robust game engine and complete editor that brings heretofore unseen ease and joy to the creation process ... and we get THIS!

Well, I think you can see my point. Don't hold a spitting contest against the wind.

[notyoueither]

And you'd know everything about this game, wouldn't you Yin? I mean it lasted all of, what, 1 or 2 weeks on your hard drive? And in that time you looked into all the possible solutions to the problems you've found with it? Of course you did.

I understand the reaction of many people to civ3. I understand that they thought they were buying (or borrowing) into Sid's next prodigy child, but that's not how it turned out, is it? I cannot understand what motivates you Yin, at least if I attempt to ascribe any positive motives to most of your postings of late.

So what now?

Ever heard of CTP2? That thing was a boring breed of dog right out of the gate. In that case the developer abandoned the cripple very soon after release. What did the TBS fans do? Some wailed and gnashed their teeth I'm sure, but others set about the task of making CTP2 a viable, fun game. I've heard they succeeded.

What is the situation with civ3? It's not finished yet. The developer is demonstrating a continued commitment to the game. In other words, change will come. Why else would they ask for public testers for patches? I conclude those *patches* may be very radical. Or, they are gearing up for an expansion. In that case, then maybe you'll finally pay for the game Yin. Assuming it meets your standards.

But, what if they do nothing? What if they abandon the thing? Well friends, the end is not near. This game can be significantly changed from the standard release. Don't like corruption? It can be virtually eliminated with the editor as it stands. Don't find the Modern Era of much interest? Techs can be added, as well as units, buildings, wonders, etc with some extra help.

Are we happy with Civ3? Hell no! It can be much better. That's why I'm very pleased that the developer is still working on it. When they're done? It can still be changed, even with the unfinished/unpatched/hoped-to-be-improved editor.

So what Yin? What's your point? You are not contributing 1 jot to improving civ by your recent posts. Does civ belong to Microprose? Activision? Firaxis? Or us? If it's us (the playing public), then could you begin to reconsider your position? If civ belongs to us, then you are doing nothing to help us, but are doing everything you can to hinder us.

Us would be served by Firaxis sticking with the job. Us would be served by insightful, experienced people contributing to the task of modding this beast. You are contributing to neither of these possible ends Yin. Or maybe, you have just devolved into an uncommon troll and do not intend to contribute anything.

Salve

[yin26]

Or, they are gearing up for an expansion. In that case, then maybe you'll finally pay for the game Yin. Assuming it meets your standards.

Yes.

As for my contributions, you know little, judging from many of your previous post demonstrating total ignorance of what the people where doing here from 2 years ago.

And since I am not playing the game now on principle, I am purposely avoiding discussing the aspects of it that I didn't see clearly during my short time with the game. That leaves me to enjoy people like you who get tight panties when I post.

Post again!

[Alexander's Horse]

I believe the design team at Firaxis are doing their best but they are being thwarted by the evil penny pinchers at Infogames

[notyoueither]

A troll is a troll is a troll is a troll.

That's all you'll get out of me from here on out Yin.

At this point, you obviously intend absolutely no good will towards the game or the forum. I couldn't give a rats *ss about what you did 2 years ago.

None Salve

[yin26]

I hope those panties can breathe, Bunch Boy! LOL!

[notyoueither]

A troll is a troll is a troll is a troll.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
A troll is a troll is a troll is a troll.

No actually

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