MOHonor starring in "What I Believe!"

[yin26]

Ack, this fish WANTS to keep hooked!

[Capt Dizle]

hey now

Funny thing...when SMAC came out I really loved it and when Yin would post something critical about it, well, it irritated me.

Now, I am on the same side of fence with him about Civ3. And now his posts delight me more often than not.

Does that reveal something about human nature? My character? Yin's taste in games?

Anyway, I just thought I would let you folks know that things change and you should be careful what you say. When Civ4 comes out you might be a troll yourself.

And sometime, somewhere, somebody might put out a game that Yin likes.



Well, okay, that last bit was a stretch.

[notyoueither]

Re: hey now

Originally posted by jimmytrick
Anyway, I just thought I would let you folks know that things change and you should be careful what you say. When Civ4 comes out you might be a troll yourself.

If I ever become a completely destructive troll, such as some other people have become, please shoot me.

Negative has its place. Negative to the extent some trolls take it does not.

Salve

[MarkG]

Originally posted by yin26
If I look in the bargain bin and see a $12 shooter, I think to myself: If it has even one good level in it, I'll consider myself lucky. Otherwise, move on. But when we start talking about setting new standards for the genre and allowing the player to live out his historical curiousity through a rich and robust game engine and complete editor that brings heretofore unseen ease and joy to the creation process ... and we get THIS!

Well, I think you can see my point. Don't hold a spitting contest against the wind.

yin, i'm sure that the back of the box od that $12 shooter would say that the game did some prety great stuff too....
it's called marketing yin



notyoueither, yin has served his time as a contributing civ fan. now he is retired. yin, tell us another story about the good old times!

[yin26]

Good old times. Let's see ... there were the Markos Pre-Troll days. Those were fun.

Gee. Marketing. How could I forget? Wow. Thanks, pal.

[MarkG]

Originally posted by yin26
Gee. Marketing. How could I forget? Wow. Thanks, pal.

so you'are saying that you generally dont believe marketing, but you expected exactly what the (infogrames/firaxis/whatever) marketing team was saying for civ3?

[DaShi]

Originally posted by MarkG
i stoped reading when you posted "often", instead of "one time"....

No, you didn't.

[yin26]

so you'are saying that you generally dont believe marketing, but you expected exactly what the (infogrames/firaxis/whatever) marketing team was saying for civ3?

To some extent, yes. It's not as if Sid is some rookie designer. But my $12 shooter is made by Booger Entertainment. You see no difference?

Beyond that, Booger Entertainment didn't claim that they'd send the genre spinning with gameplay from the Gods. They were modest and better for it.

Firaxis pretended to have immense talent and proved immensely incapable. Still see no difference? Gods can be praised or cursed depending on their actions. The Firaxis Gods deserve the cursing.

[yin26]

DaShi: LOL! I'm the poster people love to hate reading!

[notyoueither]

What? I seem to be getting some interference here. The signal is breaking up... Damn these bugs!

Did someone say something about the poster people hate seeing?

[yin26]

...takes fish off hook, finally: 'Be free guppie.'...

[notyoueither]

A troll is a troll is a troll is a troll

[MarkG]

here's a blurb for $9.95 shooter

Combines realistic first-person shooter action with full real-time strategic control in the midst of full-blown 3D warfare being fought in the "Cold War" of outer space. Command & create over 30 units such as anti-grav tanks, walkers, guntowers, barracks, & recyclers while fighting from inside your own vehicle in single or multi-player skirmishes. Combines first-person shooter action with real-time strategy! Battlezone places you in the midst of the Cold War ... as it's being fought in outer space. Play either the Soviet or American sides, command and create over 30 units such as anti-grav tanks, walkers, guntowers, barracks, and recyclers -- all while fighting from inside your own vehicle in single- or multi-player skirmishes. Features full blown 3D warfare, full strategic control, and realistic first person combat action.

The original Battlezone of the 1980's was the first 3-D computer game ever. Remember the view finder? Now Activision presents the next revolutionary Battlezone - the first truly immersive first-person, action-strategy game where you command your troops from the battlefield.
Full-Blown 3-D Warfare: Pilot one of 20 anti-gravity war machines equipped with weapons of destruction: mortars, mines and the devastating Thumper Device, which launches a Richter-heavy groundquake over the morphable terrain.
Full Strategic Control: You are the supreme commander of more than 30 unique units, including tanks, infantry and mobile assault turrets. Build bases, deploy forces, manage resources and build your empire, all from the pilot's seat of your tank.
Realistic First-Person Combat Action: Ship shot down? Bail out, parachute to safety, then use your sniper rifle to take out an enemy pilot and steal the ship for sweet revenge. Switch vehicles right on the battlefield of one of seven distinct moons or planets.
Revolutionary Technology: The game features full D3D support and a quick software rendering engine which incorporates actual images from NASA space expeditions.

yin, since when someone who can actually think a bit buys based on a name on the title and the marketing blurb on the back of the box?

[yin26]

nye: So let's get this straight: Do you possibly imagine that statement doesn't apply to you? Here are the options:

a) You honestly don't see the irony and are honestly a stupid fellow; or

b) You see the irony but can think of no better way to troll, which makes you unoriginal at best ... a sad spectacle more like.

I suggest: If a) Hmm, get an education? Read some books? It's tough, you know. Your brand of stupidity could be bred in you from generations back. If it's b) Learn to troll better. I give this advice because if you plan to troll, at least make it mildly interesting for the rest of us.

Or don't. I'm rather taken by your school-girl crush on me. "I hate you, Yin! I'm never talking to you again, Yin!"

Then at recess:

"You heard me, right? I said I'm NEVER talking to you again, Yin! What do you have to say about THAT!"

Tosses her a cookie.

...crumbs on face... "Fool! I just ate your cookie AND I'm not talking to you anymore! Ha! What an idiot! Hee hee hee hee."

[yin26]

You're right, Markos: Firaxis is on the level of Booger Entertainment. I have corrected myself, trust me.