EDITOR screenshot - Preview at cgonline.com

[The Templar]

Does this mean spy missions will be sort of like what happens in Space Empires 4? You put points or money into missions but the only thing required is contact with the civ - as opposed to moving a spy or diplomat unit. That would be excellent.

Also, the editor looks pretty good.

[PGM]

Originally posted by Harlan
What's the evidence that there are no Spy or Diplomat units?

Boing! I think Mike just answered it. Seemed pretty obvious to me, caravans are gone too and that didn't mean commerce was gone either.

[CapTVK]

Originally posted by Mike Breitkreutz FIRAXIS
Diplomats and spies are indeed gone but you can still perform espionage missions. The experience levels for diplomats and spies pertain to bonuses/penalties for diplomatic and spy missions. Thus, if your diplomats are highly experienced, diplomatic missions will be more likely to succeed. Likewise, if your spies are inexperienced, spy missions will be more likely to fail.

First you say dips and spies are out of the game, next you say they're still around. Is there a spy unit of some sort?


And is the rules.txt in a special encrypted or some sort of txt file?


Hope you can help Mike,

[ixnay]

Looks to me like he is describing the espionage window, where you can probably direct your diplomats/spies on missions without actually sending units around.

[Stuie]

Originally posted by CapTVK
First you say dips and spies are out of the game, next you say they're still around. Is there a spy unit of some sort?

Diplomat and Spy units are gone. The ability to perform diplomatic and spy missions has been abstracted; you now perform these functions on a "Espionage" screen or a "Diplomacy" screen or some such.

[CapTVK]

Originally posted by ixnay37
Looks to me like he is describing the espionage window, where you can probably direct your diplomats/spies on missions without actually sending units around.

Like in MOO with the spy screen, but I'm tired of second guessing every feature. I'll wait and see if Mike can answer this conundrum.

[Mike Breitkreutz FIRAXIS]

Originally posted by Stuie


Diplomat and Spy units are gone. The ability to perform diplomatic and spy missions has been abstracted; you now perform these functions on a "Espionage" screen or a "Diplomacy" screen or some such.

You are correct.
And rules.txt is also gone. We decided to remove the text file in exchange for faster load times.... Everything that was in rules.txt is now in the editor. Anything you could do in the civ3 rules.txt file, you can do in the editor.

[Comrade Tribune]

This editor looks just right for people like me who want to try their hand at making a few scenarios without wading through text files.

[CapTVK]

Thanks Mike, that's all I wanted to know:


in summary:

Diplomats & Spy unit have been replaced by an espionage screen
The equivalent of a rules.txt doesn't exist anymore in Civ3. Everything must be done via the editor to make changes.

[Sarxis]

Have mercy on us!

Stop it! All these screens are going to make me cry---

My CIV lust is reaching critical levels..

I love the Lincoln pics- he looks noble in ANY age.

[SITS]

Re: Have mercy on us!

Originally posted by Anunikoba


I love the Lincoln pics- he looks noble in ANY age.

Actually I think he looks embalmed.

[yin26]

Everything that was in rules.txt is now in the editor.

Cool! I'm pretty sure this was one of the specific requests from the List.

[yin26]

Requests from the List:

A Single, Integrated Editor. This is perhaps the single most frequent wish among the fans. A "Game Editor" where everything found in Text and Graphics files could be edited, as well as maps and scenarios. This would be a separate executable from the main game, i.e. not a "cheat Menu" like in Civ2/SMAC, but a separate executable.

Simplify the interface. Almost everything in the Game Editor should be reachable either through a simple drag-and-drop system or through pull-down menus. Placing objects should simply be a matter of dragging an object onto the game square.

[Executor]

Is there a limit on the number of spy missions per turn? For if there is, it had better not be one.

[Falconius]

Originally posted by Harlan
Real interesting screen! One has to wonder what gets cut off on the side and bottom - looks like this isn't the whole enchilada.

There appears to be much more. For one, this appears to be a "Government" screen and none of the tabs at the top resemble anything like government, and none of them is the chosen tab. Whatever is chosen is off-screen.

The complexity of this editor is like a dream-come-true! If all the tabs display as many editable choices as this one, this game is going to be fantastic!

I'm never going to be able to get thru the next two weeks!