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  • #76
    Originally posted by Dan Magaha of FIRAXIS:
    So you can choose what method a government can use to hurry production (if any): paying money or "sacrificing" citizens, and you can set how many shields equal the life of one citizen, for the purposes of rushing a building or unit.
    When you pay money to hurry production, does this still generate hatred from your citizens?
    Of the Holy Roman Empire, this was once said:
    "It is neither holy or roman, nor is it an empire."

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    • #77
      Nah, you would just get some tired, but well paid citizens running around
      I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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      • #78
        Nah, you would just get some tired, but well paid citizens running around
        That depends on how you view overtime.
        Of the Holy Roman Empire, this was once said:
        "It is neither holy or roman, nor is it an empire."

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Jason Beaudoin


          When you pay money to hurry production, does this still generate hatred from your citizens?
          No. Your citizens don't mind writing checks, they just have a slight aversion to slow, painful deaths


          Dan
          Dan Magaha
          Firaxis Games, Inc.
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          • #80
            No. Your citizens don't mind writing checks, they just have a slight aversion to slow, painful deaths.
            So... when you "forced" your own citizens to work harder at pumping out those Immortals, you either had little money, or just enjoyed the thrill of imposing your iron will on your subjects.

            Thanks for the reply Dan!
            Of the Holy Roman Empire, this was once said:
            "It is neither holy or roman, nor is it an empire."

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Jason Beaudoin
              So... when you "forced" your own citizens to work harder at pumping out those Immortals, you either had little money, or just enjoyed the thrill of imposing your iron will on your subjects.
              I think one is restricted by government-type also.

              The more dictatorial (an economically inefficient) gov-type you have, the more the pay-check alternative is non-viable. And on the other hand: Forced labour under republic/ democracy is most likely a non-workable solution also.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Ralf


                I think one is restricted by government-type also.

                The more dictatorial (an economically inefficient) gov-type you have, the more the pay-check alternative is non-viable. And on the other hand: Forced labour under republic/ democracy is most likely a non-workable solution also.
                If that's true, somebody better tell my boss.



                I think the editor is covering pretty much everything I could want to see changed, except the Leader portraits. I know, I know...too much to ask...

                Tutto nel mondo è burla

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                • #83
                  Originally quoted by Ralf:
                  The more dictatorial (an economically inefficient) gov-type you have, the more the pay-check alternative is non-viable. And on the other hand: Forced labor under republic/ democracy is most likely a non-workable solution also.
                  IMO the logical answer is anarchy

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                  • #84
                    If that's true, somebody better tell my boss.
                    I know the feeling.

                    I think the editor is covering pretty much everything I could want to see changed, except the Leader portraits. I know, I know...too much to ask...
                    They've said time and again that these can be changed. My guess though is that they are NOT going to include the software to make professional looking stuff though.
                    - "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
                    - I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
                    - "... over 10 members raised complaints about you... and jerk was one of the nicer things they called you" - Ming

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by The Templar:
                      My guess though is that they are NOT going to include the software to make professional looking stuff though.
                      It is rediculous to even expect that you would. They are a game company not Adobe or Corel. Think of the time and money it would take them to create such a thing.

                      Of the Holy Roman Empire, this was once said:
                      "It is neither holy or roman, nor is it an empire."

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Jason Beaudoin


                        It is rediculous to even expect that you would. They are a game company not Adobe or Corel. Think of the time and money it would take them to create such a thing.

                        Anybody that optimistic is crazy - besides if you could get a full Adobe + civ3 for $50, well that would be downright weird.
                        - "A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it still ain't a part number." - Ron Reynolds
                        - I went to Zanarkand, and all I got was this lousy aeon!
                        - "... over 10 members raised complaints about you... and jerk was one of the nicer things they called you" - Ming

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Ralf
                          I think one is restricted by government-type also.
                          The more dictatorial (an economically inefficient) gov-type you have, the more the pay-check alternative is non-viable. And on the other hand: Forced labour under republic/ democracy is most likely a non-workable solution also.
                          Why is it nonworkable in a republic/democracy. Ever Hear of slavery in the US. That's forced labor. Everyone treats democracy like it is pure and good but it has its flaws (don't get me wrong i like it better than a dictorship or anarchy) but people can be quite willing to subjunct poplutions in a democracy as in a totalitarian government. Likewise some dictars do pay their citizens back, although not many so i do see your point - although you should be allowed to be one of those leaders. I'm just annoyed with how democracy is depicting in some of the civ and civ style games as being totally against war and suffering of the human.
                          Let us unite together as one nation, a world nation" - Gundam Wing

                          "The God of War will destroy all mortals whom dare stand in his way"

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Father Beast
                            Looking at the gov editor, I can't help but wonder if I can put Fundamentalism back into the game with it. Looks like I can set the free units to 10, like of old, but I don't know if I can impose the 50% science penalty the no citizens unhappy, or the government specific units.

                            If I can't even customize a gov that much, then this editor is lacking.
                            Hmm. Considering we can't see half of the editor - anybody notice that the current tab (probably "Government Types") is not even on the screenshot? That's at least two tabs we can't see! Your science penalty might be in the unseen space.
                            "If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away" --Henry David Thoreau

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                            • #89
                              Dan - How about for the Pic of the Week you make it a full picture of the the Editor, especially with a different tab? Cheers!
                              'No room for human error, and really it's thousands of times safer than letting drivers do it. But the one in ten million has come up once again, and the the cause of the accident is sits, something in the silicon.' - The Gold Coast - Kim Stanley Robinson

                              'Feels just like I can take a thousand miles in my stride hey yey' - Oh, Baby - Rhianna

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by SITS
                                Dan - How about for the Pic of the Week you make it a full picture of the the Editor, especially with a different tab? Cheers!
                                Sorry, I already took another request that will be this week's pic. Something tells me you won't be disappointed this week, though...


                                Dan
                                Dan Magaha
                                Firaxis Games, Inc.
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