Civ III's scenario tools

[wotan321]

Huh?

Okay, let me try this again. Every civ can create a "Warrior" unit. But, we can tweak the rules so that the Roman "Warrior" has more movement attributes than all other "Warrior" units, and the German "Warrior" unit has a higher attack attribute. Is that what Dan was saying? You stated:

you can clone a unit and set it to different abilities for each civ.

If that is so...

Then we could have over a dozen UUs for each civ. That...that....that is just too unbelievable to be true. Somebody help me out here....

[civcop]

Originally posted by JellyDonut
We know we can edit units and if we don't want to make units in a 3D editor, we don't have to, i.e. we can also create Civ2-style single-frame units.

I think we can edit most if not all of the text strings in the game.

So I can edit the text to say, "We should build a police station. No particular reason for it, I just like them!" like I did in Civ 2? Or my domestic advisor can ask "Who farted?"

Hey, I'm easily amused so don't criticize me too harshly.

[JellyDonut]

This gives awesome potential to scenarios. You could make two civs have essentially the same units but have different names and graphics depending on the civ.

Excuse me, I'm going to go wash my pants

[Gramphos]

Originally posted by civcop
So I can edit the text to say, "We should build a police station. No particular reason for it, I just like them!" like I did in Civ 2? Or my domestic advisor can ask "Who farted?"

Hey, I'm easily amused so don't criticize me too harshly.

Sure, a Firaxian (IIRC it was Mike) said that all strings including Civilopedia would be editable.

[wotan321]

The scenario potential is incredible, if this is true.

Civcop asked:

Just think of it.

Or my domestic advisor can ask "Who farted?"

..and what a pertinent question that would be. One of Hitler's biographers noted that the German leader often had a bit of a "flatulence" problem during meetings with out-of-town diplomats. Wouldn't it be a hoot, and historically accurate, if you put Hitler in as the German leader, and during negotiations, he periodically provided distracting sound effects? Its absolutely "Monty Pythonesque" in its potential.

Ya gotta love this game.

[Slax]

Before you get too excited, I'll point out that without a scripting language, there will likely be no way to improve the AI, change the way combat occurs, make changes to diplomacy, etc. So, for example, if you want a civ in your scenerio to use a certain tactic, it will be impossible.

[JellyDonut]

Originally posted by wotan321
The scenario potential is incredible, if this is true.

Civcop asked:
One of Hitler's biographers noted that the German leader often had a bit of a "flatulence" problem during meetings with out-of-town diplomats.

Okay, it's official. This thread needs to be booted into the OT forums

[wotan321]

Before you get too excited, I'll point out that without a scripting language, there will likely be no way to improve the AI, change the way combat occurs, make changes to diplomacy, etc. So, for example, if you want a civ in your scenerio to use a certain tactic, it will be impossible.

Yep, that is kinda sad.

But didn't I read that individual civ leaders were associated with some sort of "personality" file that determined their AI?

Perhaps down the road, we will have some ability to make the desired changes you mention.

It looks like what WILL be in the game has tremendous potential.

[Gramphos]

Originally posted by Slax
Before you get too excited, I'll point out that without a scripting language, there will likely be no way to improve the AI, change the way combat occurs, make changes to diplomacy, etc. So, for example, if you want a civ in your scenerio to use a certain tactic, it will be impossible.

You can disable every thing that you don't want the civ to build.

[dainbramaged13]

CIV3 SHOULD HAVE A SCRIPTING LANGUAGE DAMMIT!

ok now that ive just done what ive been campaigning against everyone in the forum to stop... i think i'll just go bang my head against the wall..

[Rasbelin]

It looks like the rumors that were circulating
here last spring were actually quite realistic.
Of course there was also some debates (and a poll?)
on those tools, and quite many wanted to have
point n' click tools and a minority wanted to
have programming language.

But if Firaxis keeps its promises, we should
see quite good scenario tools.

My favorite has to be the ability to give only certain
civs certain units/buildings.

[Father Beast]

Fascinating, It looks like you wil be able to design civs with NOTHING but UU's for each one, if you wish. That'll come in handy for some alien scenarios, I think.

We can apparently design governments, add govs, etc.

Dan, in a post on another thread said that we could edit pre game abilities, so only the russians could build settlers, for example. (drool)

wonder if I can set it so only the romans can build roads?

[Hoek]

Who cares about the AI? If multiplayer is good enough, AI shouldn't matter. MGE lacked any comprehensive multiplay scenarios, but hopefully Civ III will see the dawn of this type of scenario, where it's balanced specifically to be played by humans.

If we can add civs, does this mean we could have like city-state type set ups where you have like twenty diff. city-states each being their own civ? That could add a whole new dynamic to scenario-making.

I think we should collaborate on scenario-making. I, for instance, am not so good at making graphics, but I am quite good at designing unit capabilities, making maps, and placing infrastructure. I think perhaps prior to Civ 3 starting, some of us should set up a web site to pool resources.

I've always envisioned a sort of Scenario-Making Guild, and this is the perfect opportunity. One person will come up with an over-arching concept, and then we will divide the tasks up. This will mean less time and labor on each of our parts, greater specialization, which will improve the components of the scenario. If anyone is interested in working on this with me, holla at me: hoekzema@gwu.edu

[Immortal Wombat]

Originally posted by Rasbelin
Sounds like every scenario makers wet dream.

Sounds like CtP/2 without the scripting language

[Rasbelin]

Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
Sounds like CtP/2 without the scripting language

Okay, let's not forget that side of Civ III. Pros and cons
always excist together.