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[Dan Magaha FIRAXIS]

Originally posted by kaminwx
The screens are looking pretty good, but I just don't like the new irrigation look. It looks like there is swamp all over the land mass. The farmland look of civ2 is much better. Any comments on this, Dan?

Not really... I'm not an artist, so I can't really add much to the "I don't like the way X looks" threads...

Dan

[Rhysie]

Looks like Elvis is gone in civ 3 then, replaced by jesters...

[java4me]

If you look at the second Domestic Advisor screen (1st on this page: http://www.civ3.com/gallery.cfm?startimg=19 )

There is something that says Mobilization: Normalcy.

Can anyone tell me what that means?

[jsw363]

Thanks Skanky-

I understand how the caravans got absorbed into the interface, but not the spies and diplomats. I haven't seen any examples of anything treacherous one civ could do to another. I am also wondering how embassies are established. Perhaps you have to pay for them since you can't produce diplomats anymore. I always thought it a bit odd that you could establish an embassy in another civs random outpost and that you didn't have to go to the capital as would be expected.

So then just workers, settlers, leaders, catapults and other unmanned units. It would be sort of weird to cpature another civs leader though and force him to work for you. Perhaps leader when attacked, just die.

The mobilization factor comes after the discovery of Nationalism. This allows you to tailor your economy to be mobilized for war, neutral or peaceful (I think). Not exactly sure what the options are yet however.

[marcuspeddle]

Originally posted by jsw363
However, the shallows still look too acqua for me as does the irrigation.

If you look out of an airplane window while in the air you'll notice that the sea really looks that colour in the shallows. I'm not sure if that's true for every ocean or sea (it probably depends on what the sea floor is composed of) but I've seen that colour while flying.

I like the mountain ranges and forests, too. I wish I could name them with a tag or something. I'll just have to buy a lot of Post-its, I guess.

[PGM]

Originally posted by jsw363
Capturable units:
Settler
Worker
Leader
Diplomat?
Spy?
Catapult manning unit?

The units diplomat, spy and caravan are NOT in the game, they're gone. Trade and espionage are now abstract concepts, with their own specific screen. Which is a good thing IMO.

[jsw363]

Originally posted by PGM
The units diplomat, spy and caravan are NOT in the game, they're gone. Trade and espionage are now abstract concepts, with their own specific screen. Which is a good thing IMO.

Yeah, did you read my second post?

Originally posted by jsw363 So then just workers, settlers, leaders, catapults and other unmanned units.

[ChrisShaffer]

Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. When your cities are in WLTKD there are fireworks above the city.

Ah, drat, there are still WLTKD.

Please, oh please, tell us that WLTKD does not increase population!

[DonJoel]

QUOTE]Ah, drat, there are still WLTKD. Please, oh please, tell us that WLTKD does not increase population![/QUOTE]

I couldnt agree with you more....

[Nikolai]

Originally posted by java4me
If you look at the second Domestic Advisor screen (1st on this page: http://www.civ3.com/gallery.cfm?startimg=19 )

There is something that says Mobilization: Normalcy.

Can anyone tell me what that means?

I will guess that it is the state of your economy, you know, the ones you get after Nationalism(?); one where the military units costs the half of the normal, one where all costs the same as before(normalcy) and one where peaceful units\buildintgs costs the half of the normal. Got it?

[Comrade Tribune]

Defense of Zero: Not realistic for settlers.
American settlers would always have been captured and enslaved by Indian warriors.

No spies and diplomats: There goes another dimension of the game.
Espionage was one thing that was better done in Civ, compared to Moo. No more.

[Triped]

We pioneers just got lucky

Are you saying that settlers should make a viable early-game unit?

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Triped
Are you saying that settlers should make a viable early-game unit?

Not really. Attack 0, Defense 1 is best, I guess.

[Triped]

I dunno...half the point of early-game military is to defend your colonization attempts...if they can handle it themselves, then what's the point?

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Triped
I dunno...half the point of early-game military is to defend your colonization attempts...if they can handle it themselves, then what's the point?

Well, a settler is much more expensive than a warrior. AND has no attack value. So warriors already do have a large advantage compared to settlers. I believe taking all defense away from settlers AND making it possible to capture them is simply too much. Settlers without a regiment protecting them will never reach their destination, because barbarians will capture them. This is not quite realistic, I think. About half of the settlers would be healthy men, and they would have some weapons, too.