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  • Stromprophet: if they've been polishing for months, where's MP? I could care less about the movie being released, considering that I'll spend many hours playing MP, while skipping the movie.
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    • There is actually very good info about the AI outside of press release. But then again, looking for it would be just too easy.
      FIND SOME!

      I like your cerebral opinion about game design and what looks good in this genre and what does not. Didn't spend a lot of time polishing? You know nothing, I'm through talking to. You clearly sit around and don't look for anything. The game has been in polish mode for months. But if you are unaware of that, it is your business. They've been working on it a pretty long time, which is a quality of a product that is not rushed. The movies were very good. If you want to play Dues Ex, or Silent Hill 2, go elsewhere.
      frustrated?

      you know nothing
      you do? here's where my common sense outweighs your poor attempt to justify $50 spent prematurely.

      You should know even IF the graphics weren't good, they don't make the game. Gameplay makes the game.
      what gameplay are you referring to? the mounds of new features, or the AI that has to manage them?

      You've heard nothing about these so you assume you know the game is a crappy product? Hmmmmmmm, yes, that sounds real reliable and educated.


      1) real - no, nothing is certain at this point, but some things are more likely than others
      2) reliable - more than likely, see below as to why
      3) educated - past experiance. SMAC, CTP2, Diplomacy, you get the picture. AIs rumored to be intelligent and cunning turned out to be complete BS.

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      • Originally posted by DanS
        Stromprophet: if they've been polishing for months, where's MP? I could care less about the movie being released, considering that I'll spend many hours playing MP, while skipping the movie.
        I think the MP is there, but they're not done polishing it.

        IMO, you guys are all worrying about nothing. I am convinced that the silence is a sign that Multiplayer will be in the release, only they're still beta testing it so they don't want to say anything that COULD be changed bewteen now and Civ3 going gold.

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        • Originally posted by Melios


          I think the MP is there, but they're not done polishing it.

          IMO, you guys are all worrying about nothing. I am convinced that the silence is a sign that Multiplayer will be in the release, only they're still beta testing it so they don't want to say anything that COULD be changed bewteen now and Civ3 going gold.
          I'll second that
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          • who needs civ3 when there's baldur's gate 2?
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            • Originally posted by ColdWizard
              who needs civ3 when there's baldur's gate 2?
              Almost everyone on the Civ 3 forums
              I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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              • WE WANT MULTIPLAYER!

                Originally posted by DanS
                Stromprophet: if they've been polishing for months, where's MP? I could care less about the movie being released, considering that I'll spend many hours playing MP, while skipping the movie.
                DAMN RIGHT.

                I never watch the freaking movie either
                Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                • No matter how good they make the AI it will never be as good as playing against another human being or two or six. This is why MP is essential.

                  I prefer PBeM since I don't really have much in the way of free time now-a-days. Diplomacy is all by email; there's no hassling with connecting to a central server.

                  I'd really like to know if MP is going to be a patch or an additional $50 before I shell out for next month's SP version. If it's the latter, I'll wait to purchase Civ3 Gold in April.

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                  • Originally posted by Dugrik

                    I'd really like to know if MP is going to be a patch or an additional $50 before I shell out for next month's SP version. If it's the latter, I'll wait to purchase Civ3 Gold in April.
                    Who said there won't be Multiplayer in the initial Civ3 release? Neither Firaxis or Infograms officially said it will be delayed.

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                    • Originally posted by DanS I could care less about the movie being released, considering that I'll spend many hours playing MP, while skipping the movie.
                      ... whereas the general buying public, over whom you are so much more important...
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                      • Some people are really acting like ******

                        Originally posted by dainbramaged13


                        ... whereas the general buying public, over whom you are so much more important...
                        Fool, he didn't say that he was more important. He is as important as any other consumer.
                        Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

                        Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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                        • I'm all for a civ2-ish feel, but the screenshots and movies make the terrain look ugly. I hope they improve it, and I'm sure the game will look pretty good - but they didn't spend a lot of time polishing.


                          You been looking at another game? Or you don't have eyes?

                          Civ3 looks absoluetly beautiful at this point in time. Better than CtP by far!

                          As for AI, read Dan's comments on agression ratings for different civs. And an aside, how many games hype the AI? Not many at all.

                          PIRATE THE GAME UNTIL MP IS RELEASED. Show them they can not treat us like this!!! (this is kind of like a call for a boycott, except better, because you still get to play the game


                          Like I said, spoiled children. If you don't like the fact that MP won't be in the original release DON'T PLAY THE ****ING GAME! Don't be an ******* and pirate it!
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                          • Originally posted by Kaak
                            The bottom line is, when mp is released, I will pay firaxis what they deserve and are entitled to. I don't believe in free rides, but i also believe in getting my money's worth.
                            The bottom line is that not paying for anything you play is a simple theft and there ain't enough gloss to make you look like a Robin Hood. Besides, isn't there executive order or something signed that orders you to go out and do some serious shopping or the good ol' US economy is going to bust?

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                            • I still don't see why almost everyone jumped the gun and assumed there was no MP when Firaxis/Infogrames never backed it up officially. If they were going to delay MP until May, why wouldn't Infogrames officially announce it?

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                              • I'm of the opinion that if something is wrong, our modification team here can fix it

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