Greatest disappointement ever

[Bereta_Eder]

hey I already posted that!

[Bereta_Eder]

I switched to 1024 today for a few minutes to practice for civ 3.

The screen is fuzzy.

I guess I could afford a new monitor but I DON'T WANT TO!!!!

In AoE II (that I made the mistake of buying) the 800x600 (that I have for win98) and the constant scrolling made me nauseated. I fear what a 1024 would do...

I don;t want to upgrade to the 21th century I'm fine here!!!

I kick as* in all other specifications by a 3 times greater than required system. But the monitor damn it!!!

Maybe I can find some poor fool who would buy my 15' monitor.. (Greek Daemonium in action )

[Sabre2th]

I am also ashamed to be behind the line, Sabreth, but I believe I'm not quite in a minority. In monitor age, I'm in minority, no doubt, but as for the resolution, I'm not, as there are some more people wanting to run 800x600.

They may want to, but they are capable of much more. The game will look and work better in 1024, even if 800x600 is possible. Plus, as I said, the game will look much different from other programs at that resolution and, with a new (read not-so-old) monitor, will most likely not hurt people's eyes/make them vomit/whatever. Again, I'm sorry you're being left behind , but there's nothing anybody can do.

Hurry up and answer him, Dan, we're tired of his whining.

[Bereta_Eder]

Oooops! I just discovered that I have a 17' monitor

The manual that I managed to dig out says so....

But the screen is fuzzy. I'll reconfigure the hell out of it, maybe it will get better?

[Sabre2th]

Maybe your eyes have gone bad from staring at that 800x600 crap, paiktis.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Sabre2th
Maybe your eyes have gone bad from staring at that 800x600 crap, paiktis.

hehe! All I know is that I will indulge in heavy reconfiguring!! I'll exploit everything this monitor has to offer to the last of its photon particle before I upgrade.

Unfortunately I'm not in front of it to start my experiments (that some times have unpredictable results )

One thing I noticed when I switched to the 1024 is that there is no flickering but the letters are very small and somewhat fuzzy (not as clear as in the 800x600). On the other hand I could see much more messages of Apolyton in one screen which was pretty cool!

Actually, I have this computer for 6 reasons:

_word processing
_e-mails
_MP3's
_Apolyton
_civ 1,2,3
_FPS mutliplayer some times

(not necessairily in that order )

It has to fullfill its 6 goals

[Steve Clark]

This has got to be the most pathetically whining thread I have ever seen here. Next thing we'll here is a class-action lawsuit from those with Pentium 133.

There is nothing wrong with staying at 480x320 or P-133 or whatever, you just have to accept the consequences of your limitations. And the others were right, the dot pitch does NOT change when switching resolutions. 1024x768 on a 19" is the same as 800x600 on a 15" monitor. It is not about resolution but the interferance pattern from the monitor to your eyes. There are many other options available.

So quit whining and figure out a solution instead of wasting space here and blaming others.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Snapcase
Monitors are one of those components that do not drop in price dramatically at the same reverse exponential rate as most hardware

That means a CRT has a long investment life

Originally posted by Snapcase
and it's often not the priority during an upgrade. When I ask myself what would increase gaming performance the most- a 17" monitor or that extra DIMM of RAM and that nice new processor I've been looking at I know what the answer is, at least for me.

Silly CRT, keyboard, and mouse are the three pieces of hardware to which I pay most attention, since these are the parts I'm constantly in contact with. An increase in RAM will rarely increase performce and increase in processor speed will only marginly help.

Originally posted by Snapcase
Plus, most office machines have small monitors, especially laptops. All the machines at my University (where I plan to play multiplayer games of Civ3) have 15" monitors that look pretty horrid at 1024*768.

My 15" monitor looks great at 1024*768 and I have it for 4 years. Invest in a good CRT and you can squeeze a lot of use out of it. Always go for the best you can afford: NEC, Sony, Mishubishi, Eizo, etc.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Steve Clark
So quit whining and figure out a solution instead of wasting space here and blaming others.

It's my game and I'll whine if I want to, whine if I want to, whine if I want to, you would whine too if it happened to you. So there!

Explain plz: interference pattern from our monitors to our eyes?

That would be constructive

[Urban Ranger]

No dang clue what he's talking about.

How could your 17" CRT be fuzzy at 1024x768? Remember to select the highest refresh rate possible, and also non-interlaced.

[Steve Clark]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
No dang clue what he's talking about.

How could your 17" CRT be fuzzy at 1024x768? Remember to select the highest refresh rate possible, and also non-interlaced.

It is how eyes respond to the constant refresh rate. It is a combination of that, with being non-interlaced (I forget exactly what that is), the dot pitch, the screen glass (some are darker than others), distance from your eyes to the screen and also just as important: brightness and contrast and focus. Some just can't view a CRT screen (like a monitor or TV) without seeing flickering (LCD screens would be better). It's not really about resolution (unless you can't read small text and in windows, you can put in large text) but about many other factors.

[Urban Ranger]

Non-interlaced means the screen is refreshed vertically line by line. Interlaced refreshes the odd numbered lines on the first pass and even number lines on the second pass. Non-interlaced is more stable.

[vancomycin]

i'm using 1400 x 1050 resolution with ibm 15" lcd monitor and i don't feel anything bad. in fact, when i lower the resolution, everything look fuzzy.

but then again, i would accepy smaller characters rather than scrolling too much.

i believe that the civ 3 can be played at 800 x 600 resolution, based on my experience with psx emulators. the graphics for the orginal playstation is 640 x 480 but emulators for the pc can displaay it at whatever resolution. so i guess Solver's problem may still be hopeful for a solution.

[Solver]

Yes, Dan, or Jeff, or whomever wake up.
Paiktis, in AoE 2 you need to scroll all the time, no matter what your resoltuion is, I tried that. Most scrolling game 2000, for me.

[down th' pub]

Today's paper. Fry's Electronics 17" monitor, .27mm dot pitch, $88 (after rebate). Spectacles are reasonably priced too.