Solution to the spearman - tank problem?

[Theseus]

I can't believe that this argument continues to survive, zombie-like.

[CerberusIV]

Originally posted by Theseus
I can't believe that this argument continues to survive, zombie-like.

Think of it as representing a spearman fortified in a mountain fortress repeatedly attacked by tanks!

[Kuciwalker]

*points at avatar*

[Dain]

I think my IQ dropped just by reading the whole thread.

[ratster]

After much testing I've come to the conclusion that its really just anomaly strings produced by the RNG. With repeated play(I've played for a 1000+ hours myself) its (a string of anomolous results) bound to happen at the least opportune moment.

Suddenly you lose 10-20 combats(that you statisticaly you should have won) in a row. Out goes the fun, in comes the frustration. Losing that many in the late game when it may only be a fraction of your force is no big deal, but in the early game when it may be your entire force, well...

Then the paranoia sets in... Ok he's got 6 cities with probably 3 spearmen in each one, lets see...thats 18, so I'll need at least 5, no, no, better make it 6 to 1 odds in order to assure victory, ok... so thats 108 Knights, hmmmm better wait till I have a barracks in every city... jeez can I afford to support that many units with my 7 city empire... Ah who cares, Onward to victory!

Just remember, its not a spearman, its a 2, its not a Tank its a 16.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
I'm saying if it were fixed, I might buy the game. In fact, if it were fixed I *would* buy the game.

So the determining factor in your decision whether or not to purchase C3 is that there is a POSSIBLILITY for Spearmen to kill Tanks?

[Tall Stranger]

Originally posted by skywalker
*points at avatar*

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by skywalker

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
I'm saying if it were fixed, I might buy the game. In fact, if it were fixed I *would* buy the game.

So the determining factor in your decision whether or not to purchase C3 is that there is a POSSIBLILITY for Spearmen to kill Tanks?

No. To be more specific, the determining factor in my decision is whether theres going to be a ton of frustration in combat.
Because yeah, even if I do lose x many tanks or whatever I still end up winning anyway. But its just frustrating, and it's not a good game-type frustration.
So if either a player or Firaxis adjusted this, then yes I would play.

But thus far, my pleas for either the community or company to do anything have gone unheard.

[Zero]

Originally posted by vmxa1
The Comrade likes to troll from time to time.

I know. Otherwise I wouldnt be feeding him

Dont fee the troll folks. (Unless its Tass or Zylka...)

[Theseus]

Jesu, Tass, gimme a break. I'm not an editor guy, but I swear, if 5 minutes to add hps is all it would take, I'll do it.

Otherwise, go away.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
No. To be more specific, the determining factor in my decision is whether theres going to be a ton of frustration in combat.
Because yeah, even if I do lose x many tanks or whatever I still end up winning anyway. But its just frustrating, and it's not a good game-type frustration.
So if either a player or Firaxis adjusted this, then yes I would play.

But thus far, my pleas for either the community or company to do anything have gone unheard.

You would find losing one Tank, over a course of maybe ten or twenty games, to a spearman "frustrating"?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by skywalker


You would find losing one Tank, over a course of maybe ten or twenty games, to a spearman "frustrating"?

Not just one Too many.

Dont feed the troll folks.

I'm not trolling......

[Kuciwalker]

CT, since I first bought C3 I've NEVER lost a Tank to a Spearman, so I'm quite doubtful it happens often enough to be much of a problem.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by skywalker
CT, since I first bought C3 I've NEVER lost a Tank to a Spearman, so I'm quite doubtful it happens often enough to be much of a problem.

I've bolded operative words

[CerberusIV]

There is another way of looking at this. My current game has developed to the point where I invaded Viking territory. I have tanks. They have no rubber and no oil. They do have lots of TOW Infantry. It is tough going. They still have a couple of spearmen in some out of the way town somewhere that I haven't got to.

The point is that if the AI is using spearmen when you have tanks you should try a more difficult level rather than complain about losing an occasional unit. I just lost two tanks to kill a vet rifleman in a metropolis. It happens.