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I suppose that depends on your definition of "a few". And by 'whingers' I meant people who had totally pointless complaints about the game, which basically amounted to them feeling betrayed and exploited because it wasn't their own personal gaming nirvana. Those idiots left pretty early on. The people who had genuine and sensible, well-articulated, problems with the game stuck around for longer and helped make the forum an interesting place.
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Come on, everybody knows Firaxis hates us. We are always harassing them to work on SMAC 2 (CFC doesn't even know what it is), we always have smart responses to whatever they post and we have Fez. Reason enough for them to hate us.
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I think Yin32 scared them off the most with his posts. He trashed Firaxis big time, but I think a lot of it was the truth. Coracle had mainly stupid rants, whereas, Yin32 had more precise posts.
Oh yeah, FP, don't forget to mention to do a search on Multiplayer. I'm sure you can find tons of compliments towards Firaxis on that one.
EDIT: nm it's Yin26 not Yin32. Close enough.However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.Comment
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I felt that after 3 months the complaints were just boring. In the beginning, it was valid to point out short comings and there were many, espcially MP. Later it was tiresome to read the umpteenth post about PTW sucks, I don't like the culture flip, or combat or you name it.
In any event, the Firaxis people, should be able to deal with any negative post and not respond childishly, I am taking my ball and going home, if that is what occurred.Comment
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There are at least 4 Breakaway guys in the chat right now, so we aren't being ignored, per se.
Don't worry - Firaxis will recognise us as the best again when our team wins the Intersite PBEM Democracy Game!
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Re: Civfanatics, Apolyton and Firaxis.
does it matter? arn't we all members of both forums anyway?Originally posted by georges bonbon
Looking back at announcements about Conquests for the last weeks, I am under the impression that Firaxis considers Civfanatics as a preferred supplier for information to Apolyton.
Firaxis people are more active on Civfanatics than Apolyton boards.
Is this a correct impression?
If so, why?Comment
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Re: Re: Civfanatics, Apolyton and Firaxis.
I am, but there are lots of poster who aren't, or have inactive accounts at that site (mine is sort of inactive now, I think I last posted there in July).Originally posted by zorbop
arn't we all members of both forums anyway?I watched you fall. I think I pushed.Comment
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Re: Re: Civfanatics, Apolyton and Firaxis.
Originally posted by zorbop
does it matter? arn't we all members of both forums anyway?
Took the words right out of my mouth! Yes come on people we all go to both sites anyway. I am a member at both sites and I visit them almost equally. If they had 4 sites as good as these two I would be going to all 4. I am thankful that we have these awesome sites, they both rule. As long as they are both still up and running I am happy.
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I think I have oh maybe 2 or 3 posts at CFC. I have no reason to post at two different sites about the same topics. Plus I found Poly first, and I heard Poly beat up CFC before. So no way am I going to post over at the weaker CFC.
j/k CFC is a good site, but I still have no reason to post over there.However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.Comment
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Oh, we're still around... the two sites are different beasts though. Civfanatics sort of co-evolved with Civ3 (a lot of newer posters) whereas Apolyton has a pretty long history and wider scope. In other words, there is always someone here to remind us of our past mistakes...- What's that?
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Poly is my home! I stop by CFC occasionally but almost always post here. I did complain about PTW because it was painfully pathetic on release. From the previews of Conquests they will be redeemed if it is half as good as it sounds.Comment
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I visit CFC, but almost never post.Comment
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My recollection is that Firaxis lost a lot of interest in Poly around the time of PTW coming out. I'm not sure that was because of a plethora of negative posts or not, however...
Civ3 at Poly has not had an active moderator since MarkG seemed to give up on it (from what I can tell). Ming doesn't even play it (I assume from things I've read). Much of the old guard of Poly look at it as the ugly step child of Civ 2 or SMAC, or something. What dioes all that mean? Well to Firaxis and Atari it looks as if the powers that be of this site aren't really interested in their product. There is a residual attachment, and a large Civ3 poster base so they still pay Poly some attention, but wouldn't you focus on where the owners and moderators are 'fanatics' about your product if you had a choice?
I will say that I appreciate the open atmosphere of Poly a lot. Be that as it may, some of the stuff that was being tolerated in the PTW threads never would have been allowed if someone who cared had been paying attention. I think AH making up stories about Australian consumer law keeping Infogrames from releasing PTW in Australia, and repeatedly bringing it up (which subsequently got reported as news on this site) just about takes the cake. That, and some of the other pure trolls that were tolerated would have led me to conclude that my efforts were better spent elsewhere had I been making that decision as a publisher/developer.
At any rate, that is my POV. I'm sure some will differ.Last edited by notyoueither; November 4, 2003, 22:29.(\__/)
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My money is on the fact that Apoly had a LOT of downtime and operational issues during the Conquests Beta and development phase. I think that had more to do with it than just a dislike of Apoly.Comment
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As always, I take my hat off and bow to nye as... one of the wise.Originally posted by notyoueither
My recollection is that Firaxis lost a lot of interest in Poly around the time of PTW coming out. I'm not sure that was because of a plethora of negative posts or not, however...
Civ3 at Poly has not had an active moderator since MarkG seemed to give up on it (from what I can tell). Ming doesn't even play it (I assume from things I've read). Much of the old guard of Poly look at it as the ugly step child of Civ 2 or SMAC, or something. What dioes all that mean? Well to Firaxis and Atari it looks as if the powers that be of this site aren't really interested in their product. There is a residual attachment, and a large Civ3 poster base so they still pay Poly some attention, but wouldn't you focus on where the owners and moderators are 'fanatics' about your product if you had a choice?
I will say that I appreciate the open atmosphere of Poly a lot. Be that as it may, some of the stuff that was being tolerated in the PTW threads never would have been allowed if someone who cared had been paying attention. I think AH making up stories about Australian consumer law keeping Infogrames from releasing PTW in Australia, and repeatedly bringing it up (which subsequently got reported as news on this site) just about takes the cake. That, and some of the other pure trolls that were tolerated would have led me to conclude that my efforts were better spent elsewhere had I been making that decision as a publisher/developer.
At any rate, that is my POV. I'm sure some will differ.The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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