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  • #46
    Originally posted by SpencerH


    Galciv

    MOO3

    RON

    Europa Universalis

    SMAC


    I'm not saying these are necessarily better than CIV3, but thay are good alternatives to try.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by georges bonbon


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      You must be joking???????????????????

      Or aren't you????????????????????????
      Please feel free to pass along your expertise in this matter. It appears that you've been playing strategy games for many weeks now.
      We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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      • #48
        When Civ3 first came out, it was plagued by bugs and by lacks of features (it was impossible to place cities or units on the map in the 'scenario' editor). To many Civ2 and SMAC fans, the disappointment came from the fact Civ3 was a "downgrade" of their favorite game. And to some extent, it still lacks features in comparison with SMAC : no unit-trading comes to mind.

        However, Civ3 is a very solid game on its own too. The resource system, the culture system, the challenging AI (at least when you're still learning all the tricks to play) and the trade system give a Civ experience very distinct from the other games around. The graphics give a nice appearance, which is always good. And now, you won't be bothered by bugs or by abusive AI behaviour unless you ask for them, i.e play on emperor / deity.

        The new game mechanics as well as the challenge made me immediately prefer Civ3 to Civ2. But many Civ2 players were frustrated by the lack of multiplay. This has now been fixed, and you should be quite glad with the latest patch of PtW.

        Many people here have told you to wait for Conquests (Oct. 28 in the US), and I think they're right: Conquests is to include all PtW features, so you won't have to buy the gold edition to buy the full game: original Civ3 (after a quick look at Ebay, you should get it for $20) + Conquests ($30 at Amazon) will give you the full game.
        However, I'd advise you to wait a bit after Conquests release. With Firaxis' past, it is possible the game still lacks polish out of the box, and need one or two months of patching before being flawless. The best thing to do is to look at the feedback on this very forum
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        • #49
          I just remembered, if I am wrong i'm SURE I will be corrected!

          But, one of the things I love the most about civ 3 over civ2 is the fact that units aren't supported by individual cities anymore.

          That eliminates some needless micromanagement in my mind.


          Oh, by the way, can someone tell me what it means when your monitor fades from a regular bright picture to a yellowish tinted picture?... and this is a visible fading in and out..

          Time for a new monitor? It's a gateway ev900 about 5 years old....damn.
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          • #50
            You're correct about the unit support change. Personally, I'd like to see units linked to a particular city during ancient and medieval times then de-linked (as in civ3) dring industrial and modern or alternatively de-linked with governments like republic and democracy.


            It means your monitor is fried (yes thats the technical term). Unfortunately, after looking at the specs I dont think its worth the money to try to fix it.
            We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
            If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
            Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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            • #51
              My advice is to wait for Conquests, as you will have all of PtW and a new XP in the same pack.

              I think most critics came from decieved Civ2 fans when they looked at the out-of-the-box game shipped by Firaxis. Some started to hit on Civ3 and the general feeling passed along many in Civ2 forums. However, Civ3 is a good game. Firaxis did a nice job of patching the bugs and omissions left in the original game (see Spiffor's post two above mine). As it stands now, Civ3 is a great game and should be at least tried by everyone. There was much improvement over the previous version and it's quite challenging, something that lacked in Civ2, to a certain extent...

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              • #52
                Originally posted by SpencerH


                Please feel free to pass along your expertise in this matter. It appears that you've been playing strategy games for many weeks now.


                The CivIII AI is far better than CivIII, SMAC, MOO3.

                The rest I have not played. But planning to try GalCiv after Conquests.

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                • #53
                  Re the Gateway EV900 monitor (approx 5 years old) .....

                  FYI, i had exactly the same and after a few months of distorted screen appearance and a very annoying habit of going into standby when the computer switched to a different resolution - the monitor suffered a major electrical fault destroying it and my computer with it. Lost all my MP3s

                  I recommend getting rid of it ASAP and I at least wont bother buying Gateway again.
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                  • #54
                    sorry to go off topic, but.....I bought a gateway about 5 years ago with the ev900, and i have since upgraded twice, one i bought from a low level build your own shop, the latest i have now i built myself from the ground up.

                    The gateway monitor has stuck around throught it all, but alas, i may need a new one.
                    While there might be a physics engine that applies to the jugs, I doubt that an entire engine was written specifically for the funbags. - Cyclotron - debating the pressing issue of boobies in games.

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                    • #55
                      I think it's worth it now, and the upcoming expansion should make it even more interesting.
                      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                      • #56
                        If there's anything that will compel you, it is this: Civ3 is still a popular game, almost two years after its initial release. The "test of time" argument is the only one that I can think of that has any merit, and even then it should not convince players who simply do not like the game to begin playing it again.
                        Good point and very well said.

                        Wow! Has it been two years already?

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                        • #57
                          I am curious if they are already working on Civ 4....

                          and then will it come out a year after Conquests....
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                          • #58
                            Civ 3 I liked
                            PTW's features I liked.

                            What I didn't like was the unoptimised mess that was PTW. Usually, X-Pacs improve a game's performance, but PTW made me dread placing spies or doing anything else that required processing.

                            Then there was that glorious design decision to disable Hall of Fame entries for games not played with bog standard rules. So much for minor personal preference tweaks.

                            My computer also wouldn't reboot after running Civ3+PTW. Not sure what exactly caused this, but the common denominator was starting up PTW.

                            Civ3 Conquests? I'm going to spend my $50 on something useful rather than another Firaxis X-Pac.
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                            • #59
                              IIRC you could not have modified games in HoF before PTW.
                              I never noticed any performace hit from PTW, but I have a 3+GH machine.
                              I never heard of any reboot issues with PTW either.
                              So what I am saying is it is fine to dislike PTW and surely fine to not want to spend the money for C3C, but the other issues are stretching it.
                              Anyway I would expect C3C will be less than $50.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by vmxa1
                                IIRC you could not have modified games in HoF before PTW.
                                I never noticed any performace hit from PTW, but I have a 3+GH machine.
                                I never heard of any reboot issues with PTW either.
                                So what I am saying is it is fine to dislike PTW and surely fine to not want to spend the money for C3C, but the other issues are stretching it.
                                Anyway I would expect C3C will be less than $50.
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