Tobacco? For Shame Firaxis!

[Willem]

Originally posted by The Templar


Gee Willem, haven't you heard about the new Dubya method of treaty renegotiation? You just pull out unilaterally.

Yeah right, Dubya advocating the legalization of marijuana.

There'll have to be a cold day in hell first!

[Louis XXIV]

They already have wine, what's wrong with tobacco?

[Azeem]

True. Wine (alcohol) is equally a health risk as tobacco. I loathe tobacco, but I think it should be included given its history as a cash crop.

[Arrian]

Edit: nevermind.

-Arrian

[Mad Bomber]

I'm just waiting for Firaxis to put Barley as a luxury resource, my CIV deserves a beer!!

[statusperfect]

This thread is complete OT bull****.

cheers

[Arrian]

Originally posted by Mad Bomber
Excellent point Arrian!

Sorry for editing it out. I just decided I don't want to jump into this discussion.

-Arrian

[Aramis]

After reading this thread I was suddenly struck with the revelation that due to my love of sending out fleets of privateers I am actually advocating PIRACY! Shame on me.
Good heavens--CIV is a game, after all. It doesn't have to (and sure doesn't) mirror the World.

[TheArsenal]

Originally posted by The Templar
I primarily saying that the costs of tobacco should be reflected.

Hmm ... wait ... I've got it! Civs that have tobacco as a resource should have units which get wheezy and fatigued in battle (animated by them bending over holding their knees and breathing hard), and when moving units long distances they should lose a turn to either take a smoke or catch their breath.

Tobacco as a resource is fine. Its historically accurate, a HUGE international resource, legal, and since the icons will probably be little pipes, it will look cool as well.

Your moral solution: Don't build roads to it. Don't trade for it.

[Mad Bomber]

Originally posted by Arrian


Sorry for editing it out. I just decided I don't want to jump into this discussion.

-Arrian

A wise decision on your part.

[The Templar]

Originally posted by Azeem
True. Wine (alcohol) is equally a health risk as tobacco. I loathe tobacco, but I think it should be included given its history as a cash crop.

Red wine is good for your health. If tobacco is in, it should have a cost reflected in reduced productivity or increased medical costs.

[History Guy]

Rob, excellent point.

[statusperfect]

Originally posted by The Templar
Red wine is good for your health. If tobacco is in, it should have a cost reflected in reduced productivity or increased medical costs.

It's the conservative chemicals in the wine that are good for the heart.

If you only eat the conservative chemicals you get the same positive effect as if you were drinking wine.

Maybe a "wine conservative chemical" resource?

cheers

[statusperfect]

Originally posted by TheArsenal
the icons will probably be little pipes

cheers

[ALPHA WOLF 64]

i already use tobacco as a luxury and I gave it a -1 shield to reflect decreased production from cancer deaths. the penalty only takes effect if its a bonus grassland or the tile is mined. i do wish that luxuries could become obsolete. I made tobacco available with industrialization and would like to make it obsolete with longevity or some health tech. (same concept would be nice for other luxuries).