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Chatted with Togas for a bit. He was curious about the role of NeuD and GoW in all this. I said NeuD is standing on the sidelines - and that it wasn't clear yet to the extent of GoW involvement - but that if they did get involved - it would be minimal.
He was also asking about feudalism, and if we knew anyone esle who was researching it. I said no - but asked that he not buy it from GS. He agreed, and said he would try and get it from GoW.
We also firmed up the engineering deal. 200 gold as 10 gpt, starting when the current deal expires.
He said that no one from GS had contacted them yet.
He asked about our military strength - I danced around that one. They know we are bigger than them - which gives us the largest military in the world. They will know it - but no one else. Let's hope they keep that to themselves.
He also asked about our iron supply - and why it was there , then not, then there. He has figured out waht we are up to. Again - that may be info going to GS.
I sort of suspect he may be feeding info to GS - but I am not sure. I do not trust them. That is for sure. If anyone can get a sense if GS and RP are close in any way - it would help.
They also wished us luck - and he seemed sincere about that. He is hard to read.Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.Comment
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If Eli's read of Shiber in the "... Heart of GS" thread is correct then GS and RP do not get along.I sort of suspect he may be feeding info to GS - but I am not sure. I do not trust them. That is for sure. If anyone can get a sense if GS and RP are close in any way - it would help.
Of course, all the civs could be telling us they don't like GS just to get us to do the dirty work and take GS down a bit.Comment
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If Eli's read of Shiber in the "... Heart of GS" thread is correct then GS and RP do not get along.I sort of suspect he may be feeding info to GS - but I am not sure. I do not trust them. That is for sure. If anyone can get a sense if GS and RP are close in any way - it would help.
Of course, all the civs could be telling us they don't like GS just to get us to do the dirty work and take GS down a bit.Comment
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"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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Eli - it is wonderful! It will p*** them off even more.
But whu did you post this in the RP FA thread???Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.Comment
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Yes, I saw that in the public thread. I laughed so hard I had to wipe my eyes. 
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Draft contract. Any comments before we send it to Togas?
Trade Agreement Between Spain and Vox Controli
In exchange for the technology of engineering, to be delivered as 'accepted' to Spanish RolepLay by Vox Controli on or before the date xx turns from this date, Spain agrees to pay the sum of 200 gold, payable as 10 gold per turn, to commence on the turn after the conclusion of the current 8gpt payment for a previous deal, and to run for a period of 20 turns.
Signed ........ Togas......
Signed ........ ????? ..... for Vox ControliCry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.Comment
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This is good... I didn't know ????? was part of our team though!
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OK.
I think ????? is lying low to stay out of the fire in the public form.
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Hehehe.
Speaking of RP - get a load of the letter we just got from Togas. A big .
Togas ... Thank-you very much for your letter of support. It will be shared with our team.
Although there is clearly a lot of fun involved in all of this, there is also a fair bit of principle as well. That is why we felt it important to state our case. We appreciate both the moral support, as well as the substantive trade support. Speaking of which, a draft agreement for engineering is under quick review on our side - and should be over to you shortly.
In the meantime, please continue to enjoy the show in the public forum.
Regards..... Beta.
Togas wrote on 10-04-2003 18:43:
I must admit, I believe that Vox turned the tide of public opinion against GS when you posted that very well documented History 101. I commend you for coming forward with the real story and backing away from the amusing, but somewhat ridiculous propoganda.
This explains everything, and puts things in their proper perspective. There seems no doubt that Vox was on the losing end of your bargain with GS ... what bothers me most are the demands from GS that you split the Lux payment for a city. You gave up a city, not them, yet they made demands for HALF of the money you received?! That's preposterous! They also stiffed you on tech deals and kept warriors inside your territory to watch your movements. Your team has been abused and mistreated for quite some time.
History tends to side with the victor. Irregardless of how this war turns out, I believe you are doing the only thing you could possibly do to right this wrong and to give your team a shot at winning the game. However, as reports come in from the front (GoW ships have reported VERY large #s of units ), we are becoming confident that you will be the victors and that this war will be seen a major mistake in the foriegn policy of GS ... and a major military victory by Vox Controli.
--TogasCry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.Comment
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Wow - and another one from Nuclear Winter. Maybe they are just trying to butter us up as part of a deal with GS. Somehow I don't think so.
My dear Nuclearis Winterius - I don't know what to say. A thousand thank-you's from the soldiers and people of Vox. Yes, for the wine and squid, but the blessings are particularly appreciated. You do us honor.
And we intend to bestow honor on this world by ridding it of the self-righteous and ungodly nation of Gathering Storm. Yes - we know the fight will be hard - but we will prevail.
In addition to your words of support, and your blessings, and the wine and squid, we also thank you for your support through trade. We have a draft of a short agreement for the engineering trade previously discussed. We will forward it to you shortly. In addition, we thank-you for your commitment to not purchase feudalism from the nation of infidels.
Thank-you once again for your best wishes during these dark hours but exciring times for our nation. The war room beckons. My sincerest regards... Beta
aka Beta the Bold, Immortal in General Jon's 1st Voxian Army.
Nuclear Winter wrote on 10-04-2003 18:27:
Hello Beta,
This is a message I have been wanting to send you since the declaration of war on GS. I and the nation of Spain want to wish you and your armies very good luck fighting the arrogant GSers. We know it will be a hard fight but we from Spain believe your Immortals will triumph.
May God guide your swords and strike them were it hurts!
Along with this letter goes a full ship of wine and squid for the soldiers; so goes the blessings of our holy cardinals and our Most Holy King Augusto Togas the 1st.
Kick the h*ll out of them
Nuclearis Winterius the III,
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Very nice. I guess they like our stack of Immortals. I sure hope GoW has those horsemen on the way and is willing to use them.
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By Togas' comment: ..."(GoW ships have reported VERY large #s of units )" it looks like they do! But until I actually see them land...
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