RP FA thread 1

[mjmacy]

they have extra horses. I think that is true. we could really use them

[Wittlich]

MrWhereItsAt from RP made a very interesting post on the main forum thread (Vox public announcment). Here is the excerpt:

Perhaps Vox could show its dedication to continued peace and cooperation by withdrawing? Such a gesture will be greatly appreciated by all Bob civs right now and certainly mean we would be better inclined to help you out in other ways should you need it.

Do you need the land? If so then perhaps we can all come to an agreement. If not then withdrawing will not affect your ability to settle and develop to a reasonable size, and it will put a big next to your name as far as Neu Demogyptica, Glory of War and Roleplay are all concerned.

The point here is that YES we need land. Maybe we don't have to go against GS (yet) if there is still the possibility for expansion.

I think we should look further into this...What does everyone else think?

[mjmacy]

I think if we try to expand on BOB we will certainly be stoped by GOW and ND. Going agaisnt GS will be tought but if we don't we can sit out the rest of the game in N Estonia wondering what would have happened if we had took our shot at power when we had the chance.

[HarryH]

I wonder what kind of agreement RP has in mind and what land is involved. Perhaps they know of other land, or would be willing to help us acquire some. Are they interested in joining our war with GS?

[HarryH]

Or is RP hinting that they would be willing to help against ND?

[HarryH]

If the info from Lego is true that RP is building up Swordsmen they may be looking for action against ND. Although GoW has worked with ND in the past, they are dependent on resources from RP so they may end up staying out or joining in against ND.

[Beta]

In Diss' absence, I sent this off to RP.

Macy - do you want to take over from Diss on RP, and I will deal with GhengisFarb over the next while?

Togas - esteemed leader of the people of the squid,

Greetings, sir! First off I would like to advise you that Dissident has been inovolved in a mystical experience at the temple in The Voice - something called real life. We are not sure when he will re-emerge from the temple, so during this period of his transcendance, could you please direct correspondence to me. Jon will asssign a new foreign affairs advisor to you shortly. Thank-you.

On the matters of trade, we await your response to our earlier trade discussion. We would like to finalize it from our end. In fact, we would like to offer an expansion of the deal to include the Republic, at a cost of 160 gold payable as 8 gpt over 20 turns. This would make the combined deal one of currency, monotheism, and republic in exchange for 19 gold per turn for 20 turns. We would also insist that this deal be kept strictly confidential. You are free of course, to trade further any of these techs, as long as the source is not identified.

Please let me know as soon as possible regarding this deal, as we expect to have the techs shortly. I cannot recall if you have construction, or have made previous arrangements to receive it, but if not, we could also offer it to you at a highly discounted rate.

I trust all is well with you and your fine nation.

Regards ....

Beta
Voice of Foreign Affairs
Vox Controli

[mjmacy]

I need to think about it. I have a lot of school work to do, trying to raise my grades. Hell... I'll give it a go for a while

[Beta]

Response from RP. It is almost like we did not have the chat the other day.

Trade
Hello,
I am Nuclearis Winterius the II, as you may recall, ambassdor of RP to Vox Controli.
I bring a message concerning the recent trade purposals between our teams.
We have no present interest in Republic, as the Depsot declared such a knowledge high treason, and we Spaniards are no traitors, but we do have interest in construction, and we would like to know what price would your team request for it, and also the price for Currency, but we are not sure we will do this deal with your team ,as Legoland has also made some offers in that area. Anyway I personally will try my best to reach an agreement between our teams.
As for Diplomatic Issues related to RP, please contact me, as Ambassdor at The Voice. Even though Togas greatly appreciates talking to your team members, he cannot afford to answer to your team always, as he is very involved with the planing of our nation and with RL issues.
Until then,
Nuclearis Winterius the II

[Wittlich]

[Beta]

OK - how do they know this? I just received the save and have to check??? Both the city issue and the iron issue?? The city they can see - but the iron - ah - trade screen - of course.

from RP...

We noticed that GoW now owns your city. It wasn't razed. You guys agree to
peace with them?

Btw, what happened to your iron???

Also, please contact Nuclear Winter about diplomatic issues. I'm happy to hear
them personally, but he was getting downhearted today about how he isn't being
included in diplomatic PMs, and I told him I'd remind Vox to be sure to PM him.


I received your PM about the tech trade. I have posted it and given Nuc Winter
instructions to reply to you. If you don't receive something from him by
tomorrow, let me know and I'll deal with him.

[mjmacy]

OK, this could be a problem, but I think we can work around it.
Addressing the city exchange: We gave it to GOW as a peace offering, because our military is weak. However, they are still unhappy and may press the attack onto Esonia, which NeuD are also doing. this also explains why we disconnected our IRON. we are doing it to build warriors to upgrade in defense of our homeland.
GOW then lands troops in the south, we are sending Immortals to meet thi possible threat (WE don't really have to re-declare war on GOW) then when our Immortals are in place Us and GOW attack GS.

[Beta]

Hi macy - I was thinking about this 'story' as well. My concern is that if GS thinks NeuD and GoW are landing in Estonia, they will start to mobilize. We don't want that to happen. The story still has to be a foreign continent fiasco by us. No foreign troops on Estonia, and Vox just wasting troops and production.

The last part - where GoW horsemen take out the warrior - just before the invasion - will at best buy us one turn - maybe nothing. It will still cause some reaction by GS, maybe just not as big if they think a rogue GoW unit did it , as opposed to a military machine coming down the main road.

[Beta]

Sent to RP. Hope I didn't sound too desperate to do the deal.

Greetings Nuclearis Winterius II.

It is very good to be doing buisness with you again.

I was disappointed to hear about the republic not being of interest. But I can understand your position on this. However, I would like to know what happened to the deal discussed in the week-end chat of montheism and currency for 220 gold - being 11 gpt, given your current cash crunch which we are trying to accomodate. We would be more than willing to add construction to this deal for a very reasonable price - but it would have to be a deal for all three techs.

If you are contemplating getting Monotheism from another civilization, you would be getting it from someone we are dealing with as we are the only source, and I will tell you that it may lead to us having issues with your trading partners and that initial deal. We do not mean to play the 'heavy' here - but fair is fair. And I also think you understand the logic of it being advantageous to you to deal with the 'last place' team in the world, as opposed to strengthening either your immediate neighbours, or stronger teams.

You see, we actually thought that an agreement was more or less agreed-to on the weekend, so we were somewhat disappointed by your letter. Therefore - as an enticement for both of us to work together on this deal, we are ready to consider any reasonable offer for contsruction, and we will sell it cheap here, as long as it is part and parcel of the original deal.

Our only stipulation, of course, is absolute confidentiality in our dealings.

You will also see that we have respected the wishes of the Bobians, and have 'sold' our city on the continent and pulled our troops out.

I trust that we can resume normal relations, and do business along the lines we have proposed. Please get back to me as soon as possible. Thank-you.

Best wishes - may your wine run freely, and the squid squiggle all the way down.

Cheers! BetaHound, VFA, Vox Controli.

[HarryH]

Beta, sounds good.

I wouldn't talk to them about iron. No use trying to explain something that we really don't want them knowing much about. If anything, I would just say it was a stupid little mistake that will be corrected in time.