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  • #46
    Originally posted by HarryH
    Beta, sounds good.

    I wouldn't talk to them about iron. No use trying to explain something that we really don't want them knowing much about. If anything, I would just say it was a stupid little mistake that will be corrected in time.
    I agree. Any explanation would just lead to more questions. I left it out all together.
    Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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    • #47
      Jeesh - poly was down for awhile. I was playing my first solo civ3 in awhile.

      Long negotiation with Nuclear Winter this evening. Looks like we have a deal nailed dwon. I had to throw in construction to save the deal - but got 60 gold up fornt. It will be a two part deal - 20 gold and 2gpt (total 60) for currency and construction. The next turn, 40 gold and 6 gpt for montheism (total 160). Grand total 220 gold.

      Should be finalized tomorrow morning. Fingers crossed. The alternate deal was mono by itself, as 100 gold up front, and 3 gpt for a total of 160. But I think they were keener on the former deal.
      Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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      • #48
        Sent to RP today:

        Greetings Togas and Nuclearis Winterius.

        Your recent e-mail accompanying the save read:

        "we offered again. Please give us an idea of when you will have the technology as we were under the impression that you had it now."

        My apologies. I thought it was clear when we were doing the deal - I mentioned the 4th and 5th turn arrangement - I believe. But I have better news than that. It will be this turn or the next. So please offer again, and the deal will be finalized shortly.

        Thank-you. Once again my aplogies for the misunderstanding. It was not in any way an attempt to deceive on our part. I assure you of that.

        And once again - it was a pleasure doing business with you.

        Regards .... BetaHound.
        Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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        • #49
          Roleplay are slippery b*st*rds. The save is with GS and they are currently renegotiating our deal with them I believe. I got this panicked message from Nuclear Winter. In my first response I explained the trade process. In the second, I said this. My fear here is that they will squeal to GS where they were getting currency and construction from, and this may cause us problems. This next turn is going to be very interesting. Stay close jon - I think you will have some work to do.

          The messages:

          NW - I suspect I know why you want a fast answer from us. And I suspect you are trying to re-negotiate on the deal with another civ. That is morally reprehensible, when a deal was already agreed to.

          Furthemore - and despite rumors to the contrary, GoW and Vox are not planning to attack the islands. We no more want war on our continent than you do on yours. But for a small price - a small piece of territory - we may be convinced to help out elsewhere. Please do not destroy our relationship by backtracking on this deal. Geo-politically, Vox and RolePlay have similar medium-term interests. We should be working towards a partnership. Not ending it. Keep that in mind.

          Seriously .... Beta.
          Nuclear Winter wrote on 30-03-2003 12:08:
          Ehh, shall we send the purposal for monotheism in this turn?
          I mean, have you got it already?
          I am !
          Answer fast!
          Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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          • #50
            The other thougt I just had - is that we are the only world source of Monotheism. The Lego deal is solid. As is the Gow-NeuD deal. Both can be trusted not to pass it on. To be safe - we might want to hold off on GoW.

            And then we go back to RP and say fine - you backed out of the previous deal - then fine, no monotheism trades until we re-negotiate and agree on a new price. And the price has gone up to 220 gold. All up front.

            Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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            • #51
              Maybe I read his note wrong.

              In case I did - I just sent this. A little one person good cop bad cop routine. Remember my schizophrenic comment?

              Re: Trade confusion
              NW - my friend - my apologies for my last message. It was harsh - and now that I have re-read your note - I see that it was not necessary. Please forgive an over-worked foreign advisor. With Dissident away I have been pulling triple duty. Sigh.

              To clarify - yes - we will have monotheism this turn - but I don't think we can provide it to you until we have sent you currency and construction.

              And to be even more clear - there are no plans in the work to gang up on you - well I can't speak for NeuD and GoW. But I can for Vox. I am serious about us having common medium-term interests. We can help each other.

              And yes - there are a ton of rumors floating around right now. Gathering Storm and us have been comparing the latest and most interesting ones.

              Again - my apologies - Beta.
              quote:

              Nuclear Winter wrote on 30-03-2003 12:08:
              Ehh, shall we send the purposal for monotheism in this turn?
              I mean, have you got it already?
              I am !
              Answer fast!
              Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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              • #52
                OK - good news. This deal is still on. I chatted with NW and straightened it out. They are still slippery - but the deal is done as planned.

                In this chat, NW wanted to know if I knew anything about Ghengis' comments at another sites chat room where he was atlikng about our ptwdg and intercontinental war. I said he may have been talking about our last dust-up, or he may be dreaming again. I said I had had chats with Ghengis where he discussed everything under the sun, but as far as I know, there is nothing in the works - at confirmed that vox did not have any such aspirations.
                Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                • #53
                  Came with the save from RP.

                  "Offer those techs as soon as you have them.

                  We have established an embassy with Vox Controli

                  What happened to your iron? We saw Immortals in the screenshot but you clearly
                  have no iron now ... we're curious about what happened.

                  Also, we now have a better understanding of why you wanted to build Witlitch
                  West. It is very close to your capital, closer than to any other capital."
                  Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                  • #54
                    My note to RP.

                    Techs
                    Greetings Nuclearis Winterius II.

                    Thank-you gain for our engaging discussion this afternoon. And now I have good news. Construction and Currency have both been sent to you as accepted. I could not send Monotheism as you are not yet in the middle ages. We will on our next turn. To simplify the deal - you can either send us the payment as agreed for the first part - as accepted, or payment on both parts of the deal as accepted. Either way will work for us. We will send Monotheism next turn.

                    Again - we have enjoyed doing business with you, and look forward to productive dealings for both our civilizations in the future.

                    My best regards to you, and Togas, and the other citizens of your civilization ..... Beta.
                    Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                    • #55
                      Was doing my registering for MIRC tonight - popped into Apolyton for a sec, and got cornered by Nuclear Winter of RP.

                      He wanted to know if we had feudalism for trade. He says that they have another offer, and wanted to know if we could provide it cheaper. I asked about the source, and he told me it was GS.

                      I asked if it was a present or future trade. He said he thought it was present. I don't buy this for an instant. They could not have possibly have researched it by now.

                      Anyways - I said I would look into when we might have it, and at what cost - just to buy time and keep the lines of communication open.

                      I am also using my intel network - which should have a good reading on GS's ETA for feudalism shortly. Will keep you posted as soon as I find something out.
                      Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                      • #56
                        I can't believe GS has finished Feudalism.

                        But, worse case scenario - It will cost them to upgrade their units. With thier high research rate, I don't beleive that they have too much gold laying around...

                        I still say we go with the mission. I think this is a ruse on the part of GS (and possibly RP).
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                        • #57
                          And wow.. this came with the save tonight. So - does GS have any friends in this game???

                          From Togas - via e-mail:

                          We HAVE to talk! I've instructed Nuc Winter to PM you immediately. We're VERY
                          impressed -- you linked up iron, upgraded your warriors to immortals and, for a
                          short time, were the most powerful military in the world ... until we made an
                          upgrade and tied you.

                          Our two nations both equal in military might!

                          I am praying that you are going to invade GS. If you do, you have the blessing
                          of Spain. Perhaps we can find a way to assist you.

                          If you are going to invade Legoland, you MUST tell us now. We are currently
                          negotiationg a MPP with Legoland and if you're going to attack them, please tell
                          us so that we don't sign it!

                          Please arrange for a chat with us tomorrow or tonight if possible. There is much
                          to discuss. So long as you have no plans to attack us, I believe that Spain can
                          and will be on your side. Give us a try.

                          --Togas
                          Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                          • #58
                            About Feudalism
                            Hola Señor Jon, I am Nuclearis Winterius the III ambassdor of the Roleplay team to the Vox Controlli team.
                            I am contacting you instead of Señor Betahound because you are the one online right now. Please convey this message to him if you don´t have the time available to answer it.
                            I am sending this message because Spain has heard a rumour of a nation having discovered the secrets of a tech called feudalism. We were very interested, and my most honored Lord, Togas, has ordered me to go look out for it. I am thus asking if your nation knows this secret, so we would like to comunicate the price that has been offered to us by it. We would pay the given team 12gpt or 200 golds in exchange for it. If your team has this technology available, and can offer it at a better price, we would like to know.

                            Best wishes,
                            Nuclearis Winterius the III,
                            proud ambassdor of Roleplay´s Spania to Persian Vox Controlli
                            Jon Miller-
                            I AM.CANADIAN
                            GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                            • #59
                              If RP want to assist us, they might find a way to get the map of GS... That would help us very much...
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                              • #60
                                Message from Nuclear Winter. Important!

                                Our military strategists presume Vox Controlli is about to declare war on another civilization.
                                We need to know what nation are you going to battle with.
                                By knowing this we can probably aid you with many deals and such, and you can be assured we won´t tell this to anyone.
                                We amy even aid if one of your enemies is a continental one... beside, we are about to sign a mutual protection treaty with a given nation, and we might not sign it if your nation tell us you are going to war with it in time.
                                Comunicating this to us is of the utmost importance, so please do it,
                                we may want to give direct aid if it is a common enemy,
                                please comunicate us of a time you are available to chat with the Roleplay team.
                                Also, if you can, please post this on your team´s forum so that all may get to know the contents of this.
                                My best wishes toward Vox Controlli,
                                Nuclearis Winterius the III


                                Bolding mine.
                                "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.

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