Moves - Volume 4

[HarryH]

90 AD turn played.

Our people want to build the Forbidden Palace. Fine, but we don’t need it yet.

Workers finished chopping the forest NW of The New Voice and mined the grassland. Two other workers moved up adjacent to Hope where they will start roads next turn. The three workers on the hill 2-SE of The New Voice started a mine.

Sea Biscuit renamed to Seabiscuit.

Galley in the north is exploring the coast. Galley to the south containing the settler moved west towards the Panama Vox site. The settler will be dropped off in two turns with the city founded in three. One empty galley is moving down western Bob between the continent and GoW island. The other galley is at the tip of Bob ready to move down the western side.

The elite immortal is on the forest next to The New Voice. It is heading to the city so it will be centrally located. The two veterans are moving SW just incase there are more barbarians in the desert area, although I suspect the Lego MedInf will take out anything that may be there.

The New Voice has generated its first culture point.

Treasury at 259 gold and -2 gpt. Yes, -2 gpt compared to +1 gpt last turn. We are losing 3 more commerce to corruption compared to last turn. I am not sure why. Memory is also now losing one shield to waste. Domestic Advisor pic: http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Har...D_Domestic.JPG

Printing Press in 33 turns.

Sent trade deal to Lego with the 70 gold we owe them and our territory map, accepted. Since we did not discuss which map to send I played it safe with just the territory map. If we want to give them our world map we can do that next turn.

Voxtavia pic: http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Har...tavia_90AD.JPG

I didn’t notice anything new going on in the world.

[HarryH]

110 AD turn played.

Quick turn. Not much to do.

Five workers NW of The New Voice moved down to the forest, and one move up and started to mine the hill. The two workers next to Hope started to road their tiles. The workers on the hill between The New Voice and Seabiscuit completed the mine. Laborer on Seabiscuit moved to the mined hill. Seabiscuit is now netting three shields, one is lost to corruption.

Elite Immortal moved into The New Voice. Two veteran Immortals moving towards the desert.

Northern galley exploring our coast. One galley is now on the eastern side of GoW island. I will bring him around the southern side of the island as we have some black tiles in that area. Other galley on the tip of Bob ready to head towards GoW island. Galley with settler moved closer to Panama Vox site. Will drop off next turn.

Treasury at 187 gold, -2 gpt.

Voxtavia: http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Har...avia_110AD.JPG

[Rhothaerill]

Well I thought I saw something about how to get linked pictures to show up as an actual picture in private forums, but it didn't work out. I tested it on the last turn post, but it didn't work.

I keep forgetting to ask Zargon about that. I'll send him a PM now. In Tabemono all of his pictures actually show up as pictures.

[Beta]

When you find out - let me know. The one drawback is that it takes forever - even with my fast machine and hi-speed internet service - for the turn report thread of ISDG to load up. (OK - well maybe it is 30-45 seconds). I would rather click on the link.

[Rhothaerill]

I'll let you know as soon as I find out. It doesn't matter to me which way we do it. I don't mind the small picture load times or clicking on a link. So whichever way is preferred by the rest of you it's fine with me.

[HarryH]

Use the img tag instead of the url tag. The problem with using images is each time you bring up the page it may reload if the image is not in your cache. After a number of posts using images on the same page it takes a long time. When I joined the ISDG I was still using my 56k dial-up connection. I got tired of waiting for the page showing the moves report to load (minutes) so I quit reading that forum. With the links I can view the pictures when I want to and I can go back to review the posts on the page without waithing for pictures.

[Rhothaerill]

Ah ha, got it. I just edited the last turn post again and it worked and then I edited it back to what it was. I think when I messed with it the other day I had both img and url tags showing and it messed it up. Thanks Harry.

[HarryH]

130 AD turn played

I played the turn this morning. Poly was down so I could not post the report. I will post the report when I get home tonight.

[HarryH]

130 AD turn report

No trade deals.

The five workers SW of The New Voice chopped the forest. Worker next to Hope completed the road in the grassland. Three workers moved from mined hill to hill N of Seabiscuit. Worker that last turn completed the road on the mountain S of The New Voice moved to plains next to Seabiscuit.

Elite Immortal in The New Voice fortified. Veteran immortals in the SW continued to move towards the desert.

Galley dropped of settler and immortal at Panama Vox site and then ended its turn. Galley in the north continued to explore our coast, another is exploring the southern coast of GoW island, and the trailing galley is exploring down the west coast of Bob.

A barbarian camp is next to the Panama Vox site. Lego is likely to take it out with their MedInf. If not, our elite Immortal can handle it.

Treasury at 185 gold and -2 gpt. Our gpt will go positive next turn with the settling of Panama Vox and the changing of some laborers.

Voxtavia: http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Har...avia_130AD.JPG
Panama: http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Har...0AD_Panama.JPG

RP is down to two cities, sizes 6 and 7. GoW and ND have taken all the cities in the west. http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Har...x_130AD_RP.JPG

Demographics: http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Har...mographics.JPG
We are in last place in most things, as I would expect. GNP, Land Area, and Productivity we are 5th, I believe RP is behind us in all three. Literacy we are 4th, been that way for a long time. I suspect neither GoW or ND have not built libraries and we are all tied for 4th. Military Service we are 2nd, we still have a large army for our population. This may be the one area where RP is 1st with their military build up and very little population left.

[Rhothaerill]

Something I find interesting is the ease with which GoW and ND have taken out RP...though granted we don't know all the particulars. Either they are bad tactical planners or they put much more emphasis on role playing than building military (or both). To have a huge sprawling empire like that and lose it in the space of a few turns is usually something an AI would do. With two warlike civs on their continent both approaching their 3 move UU, RP should have started building up more of a military.

[HarryH]

RP tried to claim too much territory too quickly. They pushed a number of their cities into the jungle to mark their border. Those cities were not very productive and could have done more in other locations. GoW and ND were much better at building close to home in decent locations. They expanded into the eastern section of their territories only recently. GoW has also been spending very little on research, but have been doing an excellent job of trading technology, even techs that someone else is researching. This kept them on par technology wise while letting them divert a lot of cash to other purposes, one of which I believe was to build a lot of cheap units and do a massive upgrade when they got their UU.

[Jon Miller]

time to change religions?

or did we already do so and I misssed that

hopefully RP can stay on as a client State

Jon Miller

[HarryH]

I am at the conference with my laptop and dialup access. I installed the PTW 1.21 patch but have not tried playing the game yet. It looks like the save will come our way sometime Sunday. I will give it a shot and play it. If I run into problems someone else will have to take care of it. Starting next weekend I will be at dog activities almost every weekend without internet access. I can still play during the week. Someone else will need to play if the save comes our way on a weekend.

[Wittlich]

Turn played and sent to Lego.

[Wittlich]

Here is a snapshot of our empire:

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/Wittlich/Vox.jpg

During this move I followed Harry's directions:

Galley next to Hope: Move SW-S-S to explore a bit more of the coast. [Done]

Worker on grassland next to Hope: Move N to grassland where it will start a road next turn. [Done]

The worker on the hill should complete the road this turn. [Yep, he did]

Five workers next to The New Voice: Two to build road, three to build mine. This will improve commerce and shields for Irony. [Done, and it did]

Pikeman on mined hill: Move to Panama Vox. [Oops, since Panama Vox wasn't founded yet, I forgot about him and moved him to Resurrection instead since Resurrection has only a regular pikeman...I figure the regular pikeman can move to Panama Vox when the veteran arrives]

Worker on plains next to Seabiscuit: Start a road. [Done]

Three workers on hill next to Seabiscuit: Build a road. [Done]

Veteran immortals near Phoenix: Move as you see fit. They were heading to the desert to look for barbarian camps. It doesn't look like they will be needed. [Barbarian Camp is gone, moved them both southwards to look around]

Settler: Found city of Panama Vox. Make citizen a scientist. Go to Memory and move its laborer from the gold hill to the horse hill. Go to Resurrection and change it citizen from a scientist to a laborer on the gold hill. [Done, done, done, and done. By the way wasn't sure if we wanted a harbor or a library to be started for Panama Vox, so I set it to harbor - even though no one is currently "working the fields"]

Elite immortal in Panama Vox: Do as you see fit. I am sure Lego took out the barbarian camp, otherwise use this immortal. [Immortal fortified in Panama Vox]

Galley next to Panama Vox: Move through city to other side and then south. [Done]

Galleys next to GoW: Do some exploring while moving them in the general direction of our territory. [Done and done - nothing of interest uncovered]

Activate the veteran spearman next to The New Voice and send it to Memory. We only have a regular there. Once the veteran arrives the regular will pull back to The New Voice. [Done]

At the end of the turn our treasury should move to the + gpt and we should still be advancing our Printing Press research. [Yes, GPT is now at +4, Printing Press in 30 Turns]