Diplomacy: Reports, Instructions, PMs

[Togas]

emailed to MZ

I'm going to see what the team says. I don't care either way, but I'd keep the discussion open for a few days to see what responses I get.

For this turn, I'll accept the tech swap and then I'll let you know in a day or so when we need Rubber (which will likely be very soon for some ugrades) ... However, when we do need it, it won't be for just a turn or two. I doubt we can complete all of our upgrades in a single turn. We don't have the cash for that. We may want to build infantry once our factories get online -- it'll depend on how much the upgrade costs are. If you know the upgrade costs of riflemen -> infantry, please let me know.

One more thing, I'm not sure how it would be bad for other nations to know you guys are selling us rubber. ND is negotiating a lux trade to us, we get luxes and resources from GS, and we've been getting horses from Vox for years now. The only nation we don't trade with is Lego and, well, you guys.

--Togas

[astrologix]

Originally posted by Togas


Funny you should ask. I just posted a shot of our F1 screen in the Turn Results thread. That'll give you all the info you need.

OK, Togas, I didn't notice it

In regard of our financial situation I think we could pay around 30 gpt for the 3 luxuries, assuming that our science level will remain at 0% for a long time.

[CiverDan]

I have not heard anything on a possble lego invasion for a while know, I assume ND/GoW will be pumping units out once they have factories built. Are they just going to wait for tanks? Its getting kinda late to think about cav rushes. Good strat when other party has rails is to Use a boatload (or 2) of marines to clear out units in a better defensive terrain (hills or mountains), and bring a 1/3 mix of defensive/offensive/arty. The key is to not get the landing party wiped out the turn after they land. This is more critical in PBEM, where the opponent can throw whatever they have (if they want) and not worry about time isssues in "normal" MP.

[Togas]

sent to ND:

We have send 21gpt (unaccepted) to ND to signal our interest in buying your luxuries. We propose the following:

7gpt per luxury.

We would like to buy 3.

We also have Navigation to trade. We are VERY behind on technology, and would be happy to trade you Nav for another tech, or for 20 turns of free luxuries.

--Togas

[Togas]

from Darekill

Hello Togas,
As a sign of goodwill we will give you the three requested luxurys.
Please keep in mind that 21g/T is very cheap for three luxurys.
We are also ready to buy Navigation from you in exchange we would give you "Communism".
Would that be acceptable terms?
Greetings Darekill

[Togas]

to Darekill

Darekill,

Thank you for accepting our offer of 21gpt for 3 luxuries. They are gratiously accepted and will help to appease our population.

As for your offer to trade Communism for Navigation, we must decline. Vox made us the same offer many turns ago and we also declined them. There is a feeling on our team that we do not want to adopt a Communist government, and with our nation being so small and with our civ being Commercial, Corruption is not a problem for us. Police Stations would be of no benefit.

Therefore, we'll decline, but we are willing to trade Navigation for a different tech. Surely there are other techs you can offer. We're very far behind right now.

--Togas

[Togas]

DeepO,

We didn't send any gold this turn with our WM.

We are undergoing an upgrade project to get rid of our obsolete catapults. It's rather costly.

For the next 4 turns we won't be sending you 100g.

If this is a problem, please let us know. We can scale it back to 50g over 8 turns, perhaps. Just let us know.

Also note: We purchased rubber (and Replaceable Parts) from GoW for Navigation. We have also bought 3 luxuries from ND for a paltry GPT sum.

--Togas

p.s. And let us know if there's any news

[Togas]

Togas, RP was going to be yours in a efw turns anyway, but it's very good you got rubber out of the deal. You know we can't help you there. Also, the lux from ND is excellent news!

the gold isn't that much of a problem, don't worry about it. We're counting on you to get to computers before invading Lego, but 400 gold should not make the difference. (ps, GoW and ND doesn't know this yet, they think we'll invade with infs, not MIs)

news: not really, but let me confirm our invasion date with you: we should sail in 15 turns, invade in 18. We're still hoping you will join us, contributing e.g. a transport full of conqs (more always nice, of course). We're not sure how the war is going to progress, and if we would gain land for both of us there, but let's see that when we get there.

Oh, as you have seen, we've stopped our full sea wall, as it was of no real use anyway. the rifles on your hills will be replaced by infs soon enough (in 2 turns, most likely). You do have one cat blocking a hill, please let us fort it first.

DeepO

[Togas]

Understood about the seawall. Now that railroads are in place, the move makes perfect sense. We'll be pulling all of our cats into our cities for upgrades, so that final hill should be open shortly.

Regarding the invasion: We have enough 2 boatloads (4 units) of Conquistadors already, we can probably contribute 3-4 boatloads by invasion time. Our factories are almost finished and we plan to continue mass producing Conquistadors very shortly. We can also contribute artillary to the cause if they'll be of any use.

We're going to plan for 15 turns. As the time approaches, please send us the tech for transports and give us a rally point to send our troops. With transports we'll be able to fit in more units.

--Togas

[Togas]

Togas, we're definately going to keep you up to date on techs, currently we're waiting for the NDA on steel to run out. Once that happens, we can advance you 3 or more techs. (should be soon, don't know when exactly)

Also, we've send you SM this turn, Lego got it last one. Maybe something else: we mobilized last turn, and next turn will get tanks...

arts will be useful, however I'm not sure if they would be useful for you: given the situation, it would be very hard for you guys to keep a city there, so also have little use for defenders. Without those, they're easy prey for Lego.

Maybe, and this is only a very rough idea, could you give them to us? I think we're going to have to declare war one turn or another, to give you oil (for transport upgrades). It could be exchange time for a couple of arts as well (not all)

Oh, while we're at it: don't trust GoW too much. keep your defenses checked, think 4 or 5 infs minimum in the reachable ports. GoW is currently weak to us, and thay will most likely stay so for some time to come, so they shouldn't try too much, but still... it's very possible MZ is trying one of his evil plans again.

DeepO

[Togas]

Hello Togas.
We are glad to see that our Luxurys can do good to the troublestroken People of Spain. That is the least we can do for you in the light of of the past events.

But let's get back to buissiness. Here in ND we always say compare comparable things. It is true Communism wont help you much but what do we do with Navigation? It is not a tech we dearly need. We could see it as an collectors item. Good to have it but no good for anything useful. So I belive the techs are absolutely compareable given the fact that communism is even more expansive to research.

So I'm sorry but I think we will not offer any other tech.

Greetings from ND.
Darekill

[BigFree]

We say their tech is worthless to us and they same the same about ours...yet, they were the ones who wanted it!

I don't know how to respond to that except to say that we are sorry that either team does not have a tech that the other would like to have but that maybe in the future we will and we would like to consider future trades of technology with them as plausable.

We just don't want to piss them off because we get alot for those lux's; more than we paid for them actually.

[Togas]

to Cort Haus

Greetings,

We need the help of your workers to clean up polution on one of our northern hills. If you can spare the workers, we'd greatly appreciate it.

Also, we'd like to know if there's a timeline in place for the invasion of Legoland. We've been stockpiling Conquistadors for the invasion, as well as, some support infantry. We have galleon that we plan to upgrade to Transports once we have the tech and the proper resources. Hopefully, we can get that from you just before the invasion is to proceed.

Please get back to us on the timeline.

--Togas

[Togas]

Greetings, Togas.

My apologies for not getting back to you last week as intended. Amphibious Warfare arrived a turn late, which threw us slightly off-step, but now DeepO is back from his holiday and catching up, we'll be able to confirm plans for you very soon.

Regards,

-Cort

[Togas]

ND making amphibious buildup

Hi Togas,

DeepO, your regular emissary from GS, is unavailable atm so I'm stepping in here for now.

First, are RP interested in territory on Legoland?

Second, ND Forces are as follows:

3 Settler
38 Worker
20 Marine (+8)
14 Cavalry
64 Infantry
40 Tank (+2)
1 Mech Infantry
1 Frigate
17 Transports (+3)
1 Sub
5 Destroyer
1 Battleship
18 Bomber
4 Ansar

We fear that they are gearing up for an attack on Stormia. While we are taking steps to defend against this possibility, would you guys be interested in a security policy involving a settler in a boat at the pole and a settler in our core?

Regards,

-Cort Haus