Diplomacy: Reports, Instructions, PMs

[Togas]

the following was received from Gathering Storm:

Togas,

Have you decided on our our tech offer? If time is an issue, i think a turn or so can be cut off from our ETA, but i can't commit to that.

Please reply
Thanks
Zeit.

I send the following response:

Zeit,

I'm afraid we cannot commit to purcahsing Feudalism at this time. At the moment we cannot afford this technology. We are presently trying to negotiate a separate tech sale that would give us the funds needed.

Please notify us when the tech is available and if we have the money at the time, we will likely purchase it.

--Togas

[Togas]

Damn...

Zeit's mailbox is full, so the above message didn't arrive. I'll send it to him as soon as he clears out his box.

--Togas

[Togas]

sent him the message. This is his reply:

Togas of RolePlay,

I hope that deal goes through. We're planning on getting the tech in 4 turns, but that might change according to demand. I hope you regard the pricing as reasonable given our investment in the project.

Since i'll be leaving for a 20 days trips tommorow, please direct all your messages to DeepO- he'll act as ambassador when i'm away, i assure you he's a most talented diplomat.

Cordially
Zeit.

[Togas]

My letter to Vox after they posted about Operation Immortal Beloved:

I will see what Spain can do to support this noble and worthy cause.

Furthermore, I will attempt to sway the nations of our continent to contribute to this affair.

May the Lord bless your people in these trying times and grant you the strength and speed to slay your foes.

--Togas

Their response:

Greetings Esteemed Togas of Spain,

Yes - it has started. We thank-you for your wishes and prayers. And we thank-you in advance for whatever support - direct or indirect you may offer. We are under no illusions - we have wakened a sleeping giant. This will take speed, resources, and perserverence to see it to a successful conclusion.

Speaking of support - we had discussed a potential trade for engineering - sort of done as a war loan with collateral. We would very much like to see if we can conclude such an arrangement.

Ten gold per turn, commencing when our current agreement expires, would work nicely in supporting our economy through these troubled times. That should mean the tech will be finished within a handful of turns of the completion of the payments.

Also - please do not pay much attention to the rhetoric regarding operation MacArthur. We have no designs on your continent whatsover, other than of course, potential future support.

I must retrun to the war room - so - best regards, and thank-you once again for your best wishes. To Victory!

.... BetaHound

[Togas]

The following PM was sent to Ghengis Farb and Darekill

Fellow Pact Nations:

Please convey this message to your people, as I know that Darekill is no longer governor, and do not wish to intrude on his retirement, but for an issue such as this, I felt it needed a statesmen of his experience and knowledge to convey properly.

We had our doubts about Vox's alleged "invasion", mostly because we were not called upon to defend this sacred land. We are now certain that the entire affair was a ruse ... or worse, that Gathering Storm felt that Vox's unit were relocated and planned to strike them by surprise.

We have viewed a map of Vox's land and found it lacking. They have little land, few resources, and no luxuries. Their quest to invade our continent is driven by their desire to expand. This has been a problem for our nations in addition to a public affairs nightmare.

We may have found the answer to the "Vox Problem" in this war:

If Vox is sucessful at conquering GS, they will have all the land they need, no longer feeling the pressure to expand to our continent and threaten conflict.

During the duration of this war we can be assured that Vox will not attempt to land any military units here.

Vox will lose considerably military units in combat, further reducing their threat to us.

Last, and certainly not least, this war will weaken or possibly destroy Gathering Storm, a very dangerous rival who's economy and research are the greatest in the world, and a nation who posesses a serious Late Game threat to us.

However, given the size and power of the enemy Vox has chosen, and given Vox's primative government form, they have little chance of winning with war without some assistance. I propose that we three nations support the upstart Voxians in their war, lending military units or loaning gold (on condition that Vox repays us with Engineering) so that Vox has a better chance of success. Furthermore, I propose that we embargo Gathering Storm for the duration of the war to assist Vox in their overwhelming struggle.

These gestures on our part will help to show Vox that we are not enemies and should encourage them to keep fighting Gathering Storm while we safely and peacefully settle the remainder of our continent. Furthermore, our support of Vox will enlongate the war, allow them to do maximum damage to GS, and possibly allow them the opportunity to grab the land they need to expand and never trouble us again.

I encourage both of you to contact Vox, express your support, and discuss means for helping them through this war. Presently we are working out terms with Vox for a loan of gold that will be repayed with technology at the end of the conflict. However, once Spain builds boats I will seriously consider sending military advisors and specialists into the conflict to aid the Vox Immortals in their duties.

I also believe that we should also publicly support this war and support Vox in this matter. I look forward to letters from you both on this affair expressing your opinions and thoughts on this very surprising and welcome affair.

--King Togas

[Togas]

I received this from the new *sshole who's in charge of Neu Dem:

diplomatic protocol

Dear King Togas

The government and the people of ND are very upset about the fact, that You handed over Your last diplomatic note to our former Governeur and not through the correct diplomatic channels to the Government of ND. We published the changes in our Government in our Thread here in Apolyton Forum. There is no excuse for Your failure.

Darekill is presently not a member of the Government. If You want to talk with him as a private person I have no objections, as we are a free land with highest level of civil rights.

But: Official talks have to be made with the officials of our Government (Governeur, Ministers or Diplomats).

We are awaiting Your excuses and hope, that this diplomatic crisis can be solved and does not incriminate deeply or even damage irreversible the relationsship between our two extraordinary nations.

With higest respect
mav_son
Governeur of Neu Demogyptica

[ruby_maser]

Originally posted by Togas
I received this from the new *sshole who's in charge of Neu Dem

*nod*

Send our apologies and a nice case of German sausage. They'll spend the rest of the game trying to figure out if we are sincere or sincerely insulting them.

[Hot Mustard]

Or some Spanish Squid Stew - that every noble of Spain gets to spit into before we send it.

[GodKing]

Frell the Bast-ardo. Lets kill them and get it over with.

I sent something to GS and GoW asking (informally) about tech - no responce as of yet.

[BigFree]

Originally posted by Togas
I received this from the new *sshole who's in charge of Neu Dem:

He may just be a 'kid' that was put off because his 'authority' wasn't being recognized. Sort of a power trip! Or they could be posturing, making themselves seem powerful enough to offend us without worry of consequences.

They are weak, and should be made to feel that they are so.

[Togas]

Chat today with Ghengis Farb

Ghengis Farb indicates that GoW has a ship in the neighborhood of the Vox/GS war and spotted a stack of 26 Vox units headed south ... most of which were immortals. He believes that GS will lose this war.

He is interested in participating in a joint war effort with Spain to set up two camps in old GS territory ... one with 2 Furs, one with 2 Incense. This would allow, in his mind, both of us to grow our cities with abandon (in addition to the luxes we have here).

The idea is intregueing, but far off. GoW is still scouting their continent (and the lego continent) and will likely have maps for us to buy.

Ghengis reports that he was told by GS that they are putting Feudalism "on hold" to fight Vox (probably so that none of us trade it to Vox). He also reports that GS claims they do not need Med Inf and Pikemen, they will upgrade WCs to horsemen (jungle issues), build swords, and meet Vox in the jungle, leaving warriors behind to watch the cities. He indicates that he learned this from a chat with GS.

Ghengis believes ND will attack one of us, but does not seem interested in attacking ND now... as GoW only hase horsemen. Their plan is to save up $$ and mass-upgrade to Riders and then go stomping. (ND's plan is probably the same with Ansars).

GoW was researching Feudalism, but probably stopped (to save money) and is now trying to decide if they want to increase research as it seems that no one is going after this tech.

GoW is very interested in a defensive pact. We may be able to convince them to ALLY with us vs ND, but for now, I told him I'd draft a Defensive Alliance and send it to him later this week. We will sign this defensive pact and not renew our NAP with ND.

Ghengis continues to fear the Legos, even more than ND and GS. He believes that ND is kept in check by the two of us and now that Vox is at war with GS, all is good ... but the Legos have a lot of land (and they won't give us a map, because they don't want us to know).

--Togas

[GodKing]

GS knows of Vox’s invasion!!!

I was chatting today with DeepO, prominent member of the GS team, in an effort to keep the price of Feudalism down. In the chat, I asked when he felt they would have the tech to trade. His reply was:

DeepO> Within 8 turns. Not sure as the current events with vox are going to have us adjust our sliders, but our GA will be starting soon and not sure how that will effect the time

As can be clearly seen, they are prepared (or in the process of doing so) for Vox. Later on he asked:

DeepO> How do you think other teams will take advantage of Vox? Any plans on any of Bobs teams to launch an invasion against Vox?

Although I never confirmend (or denied – which I think he took as confirmation) Vox’s plans, he was curious as to where the teams fell on taking sides. I of course tried to say nothing and kept pumping him for some info. I did mention there was some talk about some teams taking advantage and starting a small border conflict here on Bob, but I never said who, and said that it was little more than talk at this time.

We talked quite a bit about Lego, and the fact that they are just sitting out there trading techs and expanding peacefully…. We both feel that they are probably winning the game right now and that soon someone will have to take care of them permanently.

He confirmed the tech trade of Feudalism for 200 gp or 12 gpt starting upon delivery, with a 7 turn non disclosure. He also offered Chivalry for the same price and condition, as they will be researching that next. Time for Chivalry TBD as the GA will be in effect.

I will contact him again regarding discounting Feudalism as GoW is (or at least they will be in my correspondence) offering it discounted and at approximately the same time.

Respectfully,

Godking
Chamber Pot Cleaner for
Our Supreme Lord Togas

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by GodKing
GS knows of Vox’s invasion!!!

Maybe you should read the public forum occasionally.

[GodKing]

Naaaaaaaaa.........

[Hot Mustard]

From the game save email:

Originally emailed by GhengisFarb
As I told Togas,

Our potential trade deal with GS is to give them 200
gold now for them researching Feudalism at 100%
science and giving it to us in 3 turns.

We are not allowed to trade it to anyone for 10 turns
after that but would like to offer it to Roleplay at
that 10 turn mark for 75 gold to prevent GS from
profiting to much from the deal.

GS is allowing a GoW galley to scout their coast in
return for us to maintain a galley near Eliopolis and
giving them troop reports. No mention was made that
these troop reports be accurate. Basically, they wish
us to be their eyes and ears.

Services for the highest bidder, as usual. I find the bit about "reports be accurate" highly amusing.