What about a minigame set for a FEUDAL WAR!!! ?

[mrmitchell]

or a CIVIL WAR in New Spain

[mrmitchell]

I've just remade the New Spain map in the C3C Editor, but it kind of limits us, because there are only 5 cities (unless players want to play the two "outside forces" that I included--Port Isolation and Elipolis, which would presumably be in a locked alliance with one of the regular cities.

And plus, the cities are packed so tightly, a few would get screwed and only have sea squares, probably. I'll test it.

Would y'all prefer an enlarged map of New Spain? That would allow 2-3 (starting ) cities per player.

Or are we going to go with Old Spain? I'm bringing it up because, well, it is Old.

If we decide to go with New Spain (early Industrial Civil War), please post your factions/cities claimed and UUs

[Togas]

Old Spain

We used to have a map that I expanded so that it was much larger than the actual area, and it fit 7 civs on it easily.

Perhaps I'll get some free time this weekend and try to remake it.

--Togas

[Togas]

However, I think we should sort out the 7 factions, their traits, their starting locations, and their UUs.

I also think we should start in the middle ages.

--Togas

[mrmitchell]

However, I think we should sort out the 7 factions, their traits, their starting locations, and their UUs.

Conquistadoros
Militaristic+Commercial
UU: Conkickasstador
10 shields, 80/70/60 with 2400 bombard

(oh...realistic? )
Spamish Mitchell of Sevilla
Sevillans, Sevillite
Seafaring + Agricultural
UU: Elephant (too Indian? )
60 (that's Knight minus 10 right?) Shields, 4/2/2
Requires Iron but no Horses
Color: any (but Pink )

EDIT: Start at Sevilla of course
EDIT: Added some details

[Aidun]

If you need a save from this Demogame before the war started... I have most saves of all demogames I've ever been involved in (until I lost interest) backupped.

So just PM me if you need something.

Aidun

[mrmitchell]

Plus there's screenshots of the Empire (if the Empire is just a little zoomed out) in the Map Room thread.

[Nuclear Winter]

Double post, doh!

[Nuclear Winter]

I want to ask for you comrades to think about a civil war in new spain: a commie faction, a republican one (with arnelos on the lead? ) a monarchist one, a catalan and basque separatist one, and we can keep adding more political views/separatist groups if needed be...

I personally think that a enlarged modern spain map, with each faction having 2-3 cities and few room for building further would limit players to having to combine their small, backwards military forces to achieve any sort of victory over one another. This would create a very interesting terrain for diplomacy and covert actions, which may not be Civ3 at it´s most original purpose, but , come on! Doesn´t this sound fun?

I say we should give it a try. Did I say please?

[mrmitchell]

NW, I can make a map for that

Although we should have about 6, at least, cities per player. You know. So it's a close game.

I'll work on it.

EDIT:
By the way, I would like to be in one of the DICTATORSHIP factions--Communist, Fascist, or DESPOT

[MrWhereItsAt]

/me, after seeing some fuss in the chatroom, looks to see what is happening

[Togas]

I have created a map of old spain that has 4x the tiles of the actual map... I took each tile on the actual map and made 4 of them, thus blowing the map up for more players.

I then doubled any resources and luxuries on the map (up to the max of 7), and I've begun to try to better mold the landscape to look less boxy and more playable.

This map will fit 6-7 players. I'm leaning towards 7.

I still don't know exactly who is going to get involved in the game. Do we have 6 people who would like to play this map with me in pbem style?

I plan to start everyone at the middle ages, and to customize each of the factions with unique civ traits and their own unique UUs.

Please post if you want in and give me input on your faction. I'll post more info as I get it.

--Togas

[Togas]

FACTIONS

note: This will be edited as changes are made

Monarchists
Based out of Madrid
Leader = Togas
Ind + Rel
This Faction wishes to restore the Togas family as Monarchs of Spain.
UU = Heavy Warhorse (5/3/2) (replaces knight)

Republicans
Based out of Pamplona
Leader = Arnelos
Com + Sci
This Faction wishes to unite Spain as a Republic

The Church
Based out of Zaragoza
Leader = Aidun
Rel + Sci
This Faction wishes to impose a Theocracy.
UU = Swiss Guard 1/4/1 (replaces pike)

Calamari
Based out of Toledo
Leader = History Guy
Ind + Com
This Faction wishes to expand their Calmari trade empire to include all of Spain, by any means necessary.


Traders
Based out of Santiago
Leader = Nuclear Winter
Com + Ag
This Faction wishes to expand their silk trade empire to include all of Spain, by any means necessary.

Feudals
Based out of Sevilla
Leader = MrMitchell
Mil + Ag
This Faction wishes to impose a loose Feudal order of independent city-states.
UU = War Elephant (4/3/2) (replaces knight, requires ivory)

Loyalists
Based out of Valencia
Leader = BigFree
Mil + Rel
This Faction opposes the other idealist factions and wishes to unite Spain under his rule, feeling that the other factions have betrayed the true history and culture of Spain.
UU = Chargers (4/2/2) (replaces Med Inf)

[Togas]

Here's the map:

[Togas]

note: that little desert in the south is a paintbrush error. Fixed it.

--Togas