Foreign Affairs Consulate: Legoland

[Master Zen]

btw... who's going to give us Engineering? ND?

[Hot_Enamel]

IIRC ...

GF and his goons extorted it from Vox.

Vox wanted something like 200g for it, but we threatened to pull our support of their war, if they didnt discount it heavily.

They reluctantly agreed to sell it for 30g.
I know Vox are still pissed about it...and would be even more pissed if they know we are screwing them over even further, by reselling it.

See Betas comments in the last email I got from him ...

We have talked to ND. They say they are on our side. But other than nice words of support - there has been lttle in the way of substantive support. Not even a deal for engineering - which is a bit frustrating. (I hope you have not made a deal with them. Given you are getting it for 30 gold - which still aggravates many Voxians. Particularly as this came on the heels of you giving 200 gold to GS for feudalism.

Regs

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Hot_Enamel
GF and his goons extorted it from Vox.

Guido and Nunzio aren't goons.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb

Guido and Nunzio aren't goons.

200g to 30g.... damn we're good!

[Zero]

ouch... thank god Vox has nowhere else to turn to. But dont forget that Vox may hold a grudge for this.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Perhaps we can present the case that GS has agreed to pay us 200 gold for Chivalry and out of respect for our the position of Vox we aren't selling GS Chivalry and thus giving up 200 gold.

[Zero]

ok

[Master Zen]

Due to the uncertainty regarding ND and the possibility we might have to withhold on selling Feudalism to the other teams, I will refrain from giving ZargonX a definitve answer on the trade deal just in case he mentions it in the chat...

[Master Zen]

From Vondrack:

Lego-GoW Theo+Edu/Feu+Chiv trade draft
Sorry for the mixup on our side. Here is a draft of the trade agreement informally agreed upon with GF and Panzer32:


quote:
Legoland-GoW Theo+Edu/Feu+Chiv trade agreement

1) Legoland agrees to provide GoW with Theology and Education. GoW agrees to not resell/trade/gift these techs to any other party for 20 turns from receiving Education.

2) GoW agrees to provide Legoland with Feudalism and Chivalry. Legoland agrees to not resell/trade/gift these techs to any other party for 20 turns from receiving Chivalry.

3) Legoland agrees to not attempt to build Leonardo's Workshop as long as GoW remains in the game.

4) GoW agrees to not attempt to build Sistine's Chapel and Bach's Cathedral as long as Legoland remains in the game.

5) The trade shall happen right after the last of the four techs is discovered. First, Theology shall be traded for Feudalism, and one turn later, Chivalry shall be traded for Education.

On behalf of Legoland: vondrack, The President


As there is another team offering us Feudalism at a reasonable price, we would appreciate hearing from you back soon.

Best regards,
vondrack

That "other" team is of course GS.

[Master Zen]

btw, the 20 turns seems perfect IMO, hopefully by then RP will be a crippled wreck.

[Panzer32]

deal annuled by Lego: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...04#post2045304

[Master Zen]

New Deal:

Greetings, people of GoW!
(all three of you )

Legoland has always wished to be on the best terms with Glory of War. In order to make this more than just hollow words and to demonstrate our good will and genuine desire for peaceful coexistence and close cooperation, we have decided to honour the trade we discussed, though never signed.

As we were, in the meantime, while our negotiations stalled a little bit, able to acquire Feudalism from another source, we would respectfully ask for two minor modifications to the previously proposed agreement as a sign of good will from your side.

Legoland-GoW Theo+Edu/Chiv trade agreement

1) Legoland agrees to provide GoW with Theology and Education. GoW agrees to not resell/trade/gift these techs to any other party for 20 turns from receiving Education. After these 20 turns, GoW agrees to not trade Theology to any other team, unless that team also agrees to not build Sistine's Chapel as part of the trade.

2) GoW agrees to provide Legoland with Chivalry and its World Map. Legoland agrees to not resell/trade/gift Chivalry to any other party for 20 turns after receiving it.

3) Legoland agrees to not attempt to build Leonardo's Workshop as long as GoW remains in the game.

4) GoW agrees to not attempt to build Sistine's Chapel and Bach's Cathedral as long as Legoland remains in the game.

5) The trade shall happen right after the last of the three techs is discovered. First, Theology shall be sent as "accepted" to GoW. On the next turn, GoW will send "accepted" Chivalry and its World Map, and Legoland will send "accepted" Education.

[Master Zen]

20 turns seems rather quite a long time IMO considering we might need the $$ for the RP war. On the other hand, well, there's probably going to be no-one at the time who will have $$ to trade for these techs other than GS maybe.

H_E has suggested we pressure them with regards to our initial deals in which we gave them techs. Unfortunately since I do not know the details, it is necessary that one of the "veterans" of the team (Panzer or H_E) be present during negotiations.

Vondrack is usually up all night, after 11-12am EST he's usually in the ISDG chat. Perhaps H_E would like to join us as his time-zone is most compatible.

H_E, please tell me if you'd be willing to talk with vondrack with me, what day, and we'll try and fix an time with him.

[Hot_Enamel]

It seems they are going to give us 2 techs for one anyway.

ND already sold the BOB map to Lego when they made first contact, so I see no reason why we just give it to them with the deal.

I would like their map...but they wont give it. The deal above is pretty good...I say we take it.

ie Send acceptence ASAP

I am getting rw (real wife) grief about my internet usage. Too much Unreal Tournament with the mates, too many PBEM's, and she is wants help with some accounting assignments.
So committing to a chat time is difficult....I will see what I can do.

If I hook up with him...it will be completely informal. I have calmed down from my last rant..the above deal is good. I think we need to accept it.

[Hot_Enamel]

P.S. 20 turns is probably good.
Lego & RP are most likely aligned...so if we lock them in a deal to NOT send them Chivalry, then I think we grab it.

Thus another point. Vox, will be pissed when we dont send any troops, they will be doubly pissed that we attack their ally RP....so if we do sell them Chivalry, you can guarantee it will be giving to RP.

We must stop RP from getting Chivalry...
20 turns delay fron Lego
Dont sell it to Vox
Sell it to GS for 200g, and they cant sell to RP.

Regs