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  • Originally posted by DeepO
    MILJAARDE KUTGELUK! HOE IS 'T MOGELIJK, CHANSARDS! Eerst da hutteke, nu den Ramses, was't volgend, den lotto?
    Hmmm, let me guess

    Billion (1,000,000,000) of (something)! How is it possible, (something). First the hut, now Ramses, what will follow, the lotto jackpot?

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    • Easy. Kids have bedtimes.

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      • Originally posted by Sir Ralph
        Hmmm, let me guess

        Billion (1,000,000,000) of (something)! How is it possible, (something). First the hut, now Ramses, what will follow, the lotto jackpot?
        Close

        kutgeluk would be something like '***** chance', Chansards is a Flemish French for 'lucky bastards'. Okay, not really adult, but this wasn't real profanity, was it?

        As to not having bedtimes: you're right there but calling it responsible adult behaviour is something else... Besides, I like being more of a child in my bahviour, now that I'm approaching the big 3, staying young in thoughts becomes a lot more important. Hence going to work in shorts and sandals, and stuff like that

        DeepO

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        • ergh... maybe it was profanity after all, if it gets blocked by the 'poly censor... let's say "women's flower" then

          Bah, cultural differences, I guess. I've got a bigger problem saying 'OMG' then saying 'kut'.

          DeepO

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          • Originally posted by DeepO
            Besides, I like being more of a child in my bahviour, now that I'm approaching the big 3, staying young in thoughts becomes a lot more important. Hence going to work in shorts and sandals, and stuff like that
            Well, shorts and sandals are the natural choice for a software developer, aren't they? I'm going to work in shorts and sandals with over 40, and I'm not the only one in our team. Nobody except the managers and the sales officers wear suit and tie in our company.

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            • Originally posted by DeepO

              As to not having bedtimes: you're right there but calling it responsible adult behaviour is something else...
              Now when did I say responsible adult?

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              • well, yes, but doesn't this also signify you want to stay young too? And you like working in a 'young' company?

                The problem is that in a few years time, I will probably be forced to wear ties, and I'm already whaling at that...

                DeepO

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                • Originally posted by nbarclay
                  Now when did I say responsible adult?
                  I know, I know... but you also know it was what I implied the first time

                  Besides, don't think I'm trolling you, I think this applies to most of us here, at least it certainly applies to me. It was nearly 6 am for me last night, and 5 hours later I'm back behind the keyboard to see what's new on the forum...

                  DeepO

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                  • Originally posted by DeepO
                    The problem is that in a few years time, I will probably be forced to wear ties, and I'm already whaling at that...
                    I wore a uniform for 14 years, and then a tie for 10 years, and didn't like it. Believe me, I'm feeling better in shorts and sandals. My friends called me crazy to give up a job as manager with a company car, just to be a mere software developer (and that with over 40, while many companies won't take you even with 35), but I just love it. I work in a company, that produces hardware (which means my bosses don't understand anything what I'm doing), have almost no responsibility, no contact with customers (God, how I hated that earlier) and the pay is very nice. What better can I get?

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                    • Not much, I guess...

                      The problem is I like contact with customers or out-of-company guys, if it can be casual. Which is great when working at uni; everybody expect you to wear shorts, the only ties are profs or people in love with their 3-piece suit. I've worked as a software engineer before, and the mix was about right, being able to come to work very casually at certain days, but wearing ties the next. However, the work didn't challenge me enough (and certainly didn't pay enough, which was probably caused by the size of the company).

                      I'm really hesitating what to do, whether to be a bit ambitious, get myself into a large chemical company (most of which are German, so you can imagine the atmosphere), or do like you and 'step down' to have an easier time. I guess I'm not that brave to make the step now, but I certainly can see this coming in 10 years time, as responsibility is a very mixed blessing. Add to that my handicap, which means that after 8 hours of work I'm exhausted only by being present, and the choice becomes even less clear.

                      It's a shame it's so hard to find something you like doing, gives a challenge, but also let you 'play' at work in that there are no strict rules to follow. You seem to always need to give up one aspect... plus, I won't complain when getting a nice pay, it makes life a lot easier. But only if you find the time to use it... I'm not someone who needs heaps of money in the bank to be happy, on the contrary. I value free time, and casual surroundings a lot more.

                      Maybe I should become a teacher or so, at least they only work one day out of two

                      No really, I'm envious... you sound like you have found the job which I would be happy to do... if only I was a real software guy, I would ask for your company's address

                      DeepO

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                      • You are still young and have the thirties ahead. An amazing part of your life, I can assure you.

                        Be aware, that the age of (around) 33 is critical. It's the real end of your youth and you'll have to stop to rape your organism by going for the extreme (like working 36 hours in a row or similar, been there, seen that). If you don't heed this, you're a hot candidate for a gastric ulcer or heart attack.

                        I needed full 24 years to realize, that there's a life out there besides the job. As you pointed out, stockpiling money may be nice, but spending the money for something enjoyable is even nicer.

                        Well, more power to the younger, may they strive for power and honor, as long as they leave me alone with it.

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                        • bah, there is no risk of me getting an heart attack, part of my body already is 80 years old... not my heart, though, just my arm and shoulder. It keeps me from being too ambitious, but also keeps me from doing any kind of sport or excercise, which of course is a bad thing. Working 36 straight hours is not an option anymore, but yes, I've been there before as well, and it's not nice.

                          As to more power to the younger: you're right, but really, that's one respect I don't want to feel young in, for me more responsibility in a company is only something you do if you have a family to support, or want to avoid working with your hands too much. And in my situation, all hand work hurts, while talking is something I always liked and don't use my arm for. My biggest dream would be to be able to become a cook, but it's not a physical option, as it's hard work too... so let's continue studying for a while, makes you feel young

                          DeepO

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                          • Originally posted by FrustratedPoet
                            Oh yeah, we should remember to sell the barracks in all our cities immediately before ST completes ... if we can.
                            No need to sell it beforehand, we can do it afterwards too. We sell a barracks, get the gold, and the automated barracks from Sun Tsu stays there.

                            Unless we need cash, like we did last turn to upgrade 2 swords instead of 1, of course.

                            DeepO

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                            • while talking is something I always liked and don't use my arm for. My biggest dream would be to be able to become a cook,
                              Highly overrated...
                              Stressfull
                              No social life
                              Have to clean up everybodies elses mess
                              And in the end, eveything that went wrong, is your fault,
                              Not to mention the fact that you smell the whole time and can't enjoy food anymore.
                              I've done it for about 1o years and if I can help it, no more..ever...

                              I needed full 24 years to realize, that there's a life out there besides the job.
                              That's the one thing I realised very early on. Now if I could just find something I'm interested in

                              A while ago they did a survey here and the thing people are most interested in, is
                              1. job satisfaction
                              2. flexibility
                              3. short workhours
                              4. money
                              I'd say that is a very good trend (so we can finally bury the'80ties )
                              Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                              Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                              • Are you a cook by training, Alva? I new you were in "Horeca" (probably not English), but not what exactly...

                                I have to admit, it's kind of a child dream, in that I love preparing meals for someone else. I have a friend that is one though (two actually), and he's always talking about the stress and the impossible hours... I realise it won't be so rosy as I think it is.

                                DeepO

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