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okay, I'll send a PM (in half an hour or so, a bit busy atm)Comment
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Just noticed that Vox already had the save... so I included in my message to Lego that we still had NM. We definately want to mention this before they find out for themselves...
DeepOComment
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for the Lego chat:
/join #bananaman EetMeerAppels
(nobody's there yet, I'll invite Vondrack at 21h GMT sharp (in 10 minutes))
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summary of chat:
- last message was an urgent warning, not to break all contact. Vondrack didn't exactly approved (or at least he wanted to reamin neutral).
- In case one party would get the upperhand, Lego is going to interfere. They're not shipping units to Bob yet
- we tried to get them to support the just cause. Might work... needs more discussion on the Lego forum
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Newsflash:
From Vondrack's last communication (re: possibly changing our Astronomy for Banking deal).One thing I can tell you immediately, though, is that we have already pre-arranged a trade for Invention. We shall get it not immediately after finishing our Astronomy research, but in a reasonable timeframe (soon enough, considering our needs, I'd say) and at a reasonable price....
So, they are getting Invention. Thus, it makes little sense for us to research that (at least until they and the team they get it from have it, when we get a discount). Our options for restructuring our tech deal are more limited now.
Somehow I doubt they would be interested in Printing Press (dunno the tech cost, but I think it's less than Banking). So that leaves some sort of deferred payment, or the original deal.
Anybody got a bright idea?
-Arriangrog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
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it might not be so bright an idea, but what about forgetting everything, and simply researching banking? It costs only some 200 gold more then invention.
printing press is most likely for Vox, while Lego goes for navigation.
And if Bob is going for invention, it means gunpowder will come soon... at which time we either need a truce, or to have conquered most of Bob. Our knights can't attack musketmen without great losses
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We need to start thinking offensively VERY soon- 30 units on GoW's land is not a realistic venture, I believe, we'll have to settle for less, but we need to move quickly. We havethe forces to stop ND and perhaps gain some ground, but GoW is too far away from where we've concentrated our forces...
Anyway, not a discussion for this thread.Save the rainforests!
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I doubt we will be able to turn the tide and win before musketmen show up.
Anyway, we probably just have to suck it up and research banking. Then, after that, we're gonna need to shoot for MT.
-Arriangrog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!
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Ok, Legoland has answered our request.
They chose to be pretty damn accomodating: they will agree to void the tech deal with no hard feelings. For specifics, please read the Contact thread.
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Awesome!
They must realize that GoW and ND are currently the stronger side. I think we're pretty safe to assume that they don't intend to attack us in the near future.
Technically, they could be preparing for an attack by cancelling the tech deal which would allow them to declare war on us, but the smart (and Lego'ish) move would be to cripple us economically first by forcing us to research invention."Close your eyes, for your eyes will only tell the truth,
And the truth isn't what you want to see,
Close your eyes, and let music set you free..."
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Good news.
They probably aren't pleased with what they see on Bob.
And they have vox as a research buddy, so don't need us for now.Comment
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Btw, this might be just a guess but it seems pretty solid: Lego is getting invention from Vox.
Reasoning: what else can Vox research? They had to start a long while ago since they're in 40-turns mode, and until before we got involved in the war Lego thought that they can get some building techs from us and would probably commit Vox to a military tech such as invention.
Also, pay attention to this part:
Lego doesn't need invention urgently (AFAIK), so getting it in ~30-27 turns is reasonable considering their needs. A reasonable price: that is, for free (or for a token price, or whatever arrangements they've made with Vox), but Vondrack can't say that so he used this kind of wording instead.We shall get it not immediately after finishing our Astronomy research, but in a reasonable timeframe (soon enough, considering our needs, I'd say) and at a reasonable price, so that's not what we would ask for instead of Banking."Close your eyes, for your eyes will only tell the truth,
And the truth isn't what you want to see,
Close your eyes, and let music set you free..."
- Phantom of the OperaComment
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Somebody say trouble brewing? What's the scoop, guys?
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Hey Vel!!
Damn, I like Vondrack. We should try to offer up something nice to Lego for being so accommodating... GoW territory?
I am actually semi-serious there.
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