DIPLO: GoW comments

[asleepathewheel]

yes, Those disembodied quotes of Aeson seem schizophrenic


Please tell whats going on/. I'm dying over here.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Shiber
#GoW, password Dtrategy (/join #GoW Dtrategy)

You are there as Shiber, yes?

[Shiber]

The contents of two private messages that he sent me.
I don't think we should trust that information. In any case, I'm all for alerting ND in secret while butchering GoW's horsemen.

[DeepO]

We can't play along, it will look bad on us once other teams (e.g. Lego) will find out. I'm all for warning ND if it comes to that, but please let us try to keep GoW from declaring war on us, or invading our territory. If they do it, they will ruin our chances to play together, and we have no choice to team up with ND. I'd like to keep our options open for as long as possible

And I've been warned again, another 5 minutes ban
Damn apolyton irc server, I never have so many problems getting on a server, except here, where it matters.

DeepO

[FrustratedPoet]

Originally posted by DeepO
And I've been warned again, another 5 minutes ban
Damn apolyton irc server, I never have so many problems getting on a server, except here, where it matters.

If you have any specific questions you'd like to ask GoW then let me know and I'll pass them on.

Or if you can get into the Candle'Bre IRC room I can join too and be your interpreter into the GoW room on 'poly's server.

[Aeson]

I don't think we should do anything definite until we get the save and see whether they landed or not. We don't want to be feeding ND bad information...

[Shiber]

You're right in saying that we should be careful. Maybe we should tell ND that we're not sure yet if GoW has actually landed or if it's just high talk, but we know for a fact that they considered such a ruse, and therefore we advise ND not to make any rash decisions.

[Aeson]

ND plays after us... so it can wait till we know for sure.

[nbarclay]

I don't think we want to say anything to ND about this until we get the save and see for ourselves what has (and hasn't) happened.

[FrustratedPoet]

I agree. We need hard facts before we start talking to ND about this.
There's not alot they can do in one turn anyway.

[DeepO]

Thanks FP. The only thing I really want to say to them is that, as a humble member of GS, I will never allow us to lie to other teams. If they invade us, after telling us it is only a ruse, we have the moral obligation to declare war, and to stay at war until every other team knows of how GoW wanted to deceive them. I don't like it to be forced, and I hoped that we could have a good, honorable relation with GoW, but if they force us, we will respond.

Oh, and I may be just one member of our team, but if this team would decide to look the other way on the honor thing just because this once it would suit us, I'd resign. This will create so many problems later on, that it is not worth it to continue, trying to clean up the mess we would have put ourselves in. Already we aren't looked upon as the friendliest team, I would hate to see us using this kind of dishonorable practices to gain from it. We don't need it, and I'd rather lose the game then go back on promises made before. Yes, I feel very strongly about this...

DeepO

[DeepO]

BTW, If they invade us, we would do good to set research up to the max, and get ourselves to knights asap. It would be fun to invade Bob with knights (possibly helped by answar's) before GoW is able to get them

DeepO

[Shiber]

I second DeepO. There's no such thing as "lying just once", since one lie always drags another behind. Besides, what good is a moral code if you can break it when it's comfortable?

[Theseus]

I stand by DeepO as well.

[nbarclay]

I don't like the "stay at war until" part. There are other ways to deal with the situation to avoid being accomplices in GoW's plot, and I'd rather give GoW the chance to cut their losses if they make the mistake of thinking we'll cooperate once the landing is done.