Vox Controli comments part two

[Aeson]

I think we should just let them do it their way. The cities aren't terribly useful to us at this point. I was fine with 120g, and this should put them close to 100g given the upkeep costs they save. Still fine with me.

[nbarclay]

Two issues:

1) If they would go into anarchy when they're finished producing units until they get their new cities founded, wouldn't that pretty much solve the gold drain problem? It would cost some production and worker speed, but would make unit support a non-issue.

2) We need to know how big their new capital is before we can feel comfortable that a palace jump won't misfire.

[DeepO]

2) is basically everything, if their capital is size 2, it should work. If it is size 1, there is no other way to do it then nye's last proposal to them

1): maybe they don't want to go into republic, plus with only a couple of cities, or just one, anarchy will only take 1 or 2 turns. But I would propose it to them, to give them one more option.

DeepO

[nbarclay]

Probably, they would need to choose Despotism again when they come out of anarchy. But it's workable. I wouldn't feel comfortable with a palace jump working unless their capital is at least two population bigger than any city that would remain in their hands, and probably three bigger.

Another possibility would be:

1) They go into anarchy and give us all their cities on Stormia except for The Voice.

2) We take The Voice, jumping their palace, and then offer peace and give back their cities.

3) They load their units into one of the cities and give it back to us to do the jump.

The anarchy would avoid their losing a lot of gold during the turn that we have custody of their cities.

[notyoueither]

Good ideas. I will hook up with Beta again.

The thing we have to include in the jump equation, is that the Lego city will have foreign pop. That would make it very difficult to jump to with any number of cities over here, wouldn't it?

[DeepO]

I don't know, nye... as far as I know, no formula has been devised taking into account foreign citizens. The safest will certainly be your solution, the formula I saw from badasm (?) only took into account the size of the new capital, and the amount of cities 8 tiles from that city.

DeepO

[Theseus]

SR just nominated this for a Must Read:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=80341

It's been updated to address foreign citizens.

[notyoueither]

Cool, I was looking for that.

Just chatting with Beta. He almost begged me to say 'no' to their seven points, so I did. We proceed with the original 5 points. 2 turns to V Day.

[Theseus]

"Are you French?" funny

[asleepathewheel]

And again Vox makes no sense. Must be some internal strife dealing with the handover. Wonder why that is. I must say, I am suprised that they are actually going through with this, I thought they would double cross us, but....

[DeepO]

asleep, I don't think they can double cross us... so they play nice
I missed the last communication, though, but am catching up

DeepO