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**ManicStarSeed** · June 11, 2003, 12:25

Good...

**Shiber** · June 11, 2003, 16:05

Vox are interested in a plan to evacuate them. In fact, they are already preparing one of their own.
Does this mean that it's time to bring up Nathan's offer?

**ManicStarSeed** · June 11, 2003, 17:26

Originally posted by Shiber
Vox are interested in a plan to evacuate them. In fact, they are already preparing one of their own.
Does this mean that it's time to bring up Nathan's offer?

Absolutely.

They would welcome the assistace right about now.

This is wht we have right now...

1) Vox will hand over their catapults and disband all of their other military forces except for five immortals. They will allow up to two WCs to enter their territory to verify compliance and will keep their cities empty of forces while our inspectors visit.

2) We will give Vox 12 turns of peace to build and rush settlers and galleys to evactuate as much of their population as possible. With proper planning (and we could help with that), I think they could escape with at least five settlers and galleys to go with the immortals they're allowed to keep.

3) While Vox is rebuilding in whatever new home they can find (if any), we will supply Vox with whatever technologies we can without compromising our diplomatic or trade relations with other civs.

4) Vox agrees not to disband what's left of their cities after their building and pop rushing.

Anything Else....

We should deliver the proposal by the beginning of RPs turn, if possible, so that they can discuss, agree and actualize their initial part of the plan.

I think that his is where our code of honor might pay off...

Lets flesh out the plan a little more in nathan's proposal of peace

Mss

**notyoueither** · June 11, 2003, 22:04

MSS. See the Vox discussion thread. Sorry, I bumped it and it seems to be going on from there.

The discussion threads are better for this sort of thing, I think.

**DeepO** · June 12, 2003, 12:58

Sorry guys, no time to read all the discussions here, I'm again hit with that terrible disease some refer to as RL

actually, partly that is not so bad, as one of these weeks some change could finally happen in my g/f situation (which is none existing, for those who don't know). Partly I just drown in work.

Just a few things: I officially give my ambassador position to RP to OPD (well, actually, I was only interim ambassador), I'd like to keep Lego. However, I can't promise day-to-day attendance (it has been several days since I browsed the forum), so if someone would please keep my seat warm if something needs to be done, I'd appreciate it.

Keep up the good work, and give them hell (well, at least Vox),
DeepO

**Shiber** · June 13, 2003, 07:52

Vox has scouted much of our territory, with their embassy and their incursions. It appears that RP is going to scout our shores.
We have little left to hide. Is it time to set up map whoring (sell our map to everyone simultaneously) so that we can at least profit from our world map?

**Aeson** · June 13, 2003, 08:44

I definitely favor selling our maps at this point. Right now all that blackness is doing us more harm than good. Might have saved us against Vox, but now we have the galleys to give us enough warning time. The other civs fears are probably that we have hundreds of tiles down here. Lets show them that those tiles gotta be on Lego or elsewhere.

**Arrian** · June 13, 2003, 16:36

Ok, so be it. My PoV is clearly in the minority. And based on your posts, Aeson, I've come to see that I was probably wrong.

Sell it, then.

-Arrian

**notyoueither** · June 13, 2003, 18:08

I agree, begrudgingly. Our map will be part of the price we pay for our fractured diplomacy.

**ManicStarSeed** · June 13, 2003, 19:23

We need to set a price and sell it around, Then Lego will start to look frightening... We will bring it up in tthe RP chat tonight...

Mss

**alva** · June 13, 2003, 19:33

Sorry, but now I'm confused of when this is supposed to be, I understud it would be saturday 15.00h?

**ManicStarSeed** · June 13, 2003, 19:36

Has it changed?.. I need to go home and see what is up. I have commited to something tonight at 7pm PDT

Mss

**Theseus** · June 13, 2003, 19:46

"Several times in the Civ3 Strat forum, I noticed the idea that it was not so important to OWN a great wonder, as it was to DENY it to others. Now, can this be applied to wars and allies? If one warring side tells me "yeah, no problem, we can handle that, don't worry" (read: no deal available) and the other one says "look, we cannot make it on our own, we'd really appreciate if you could support us, even indirectly - if you can help us here with this, we could give you that..." (read: a deal available). So, what does a civ having no interest in either warring party winning the war do? Yes, right, it sticks to doing business. Wherever it is available."

- From Vondrack's post on the public thread.
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Why are we not negotiating out-game alliances with in-game currency?

Our 'friends' are being pretty obvious about this... both in reference to the now and to history.

**Arrian** · June 13, 2003, 20:06

A flash of honesty amid the bull****.

GhengisFarb was pretty honest too.

-Arrian

**Shiber** · June 14, 2003, 04:28

Originally posted by ManicStarSeed
We need to set a price and sell it around, Then Lego will start to look frightening...

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