After action report "The Great Bobian War"

[Arnelos]

WhiteBandit pretty much just nailed what happened. 12 turns sounds about right... I remember that we had been suspicious of GoW's intentions before that, but it was the experience of being in chat with GoW and their insane demands for Chivalry that convinced us the attack was coming almost for sure in the very near future.

When no-one else would offer us the tech and everyone else already had it, that sealed the deal.

[Rhothaerill]

Originally posted by Arnelos
WhiteBandit pretty much just nailed what happened. 12 turns sounds about right... I remember that we had been suspicious of GoW's intentions before that, but it was the experience of being in chat with GoW and their insane demands for Chivalry that convinced us the attack was coming almost for sure in the very near future.

When no-one else would offer us the tech and everyone else already had it, that sealed the deal.

Ahem...Vox didn't have the tech so we couldn't have offered it at all.

[Donegeal]

We had decided we were going to attack RP WAY back to just after the Move Warrior/Writing debackle. A formal agreement with ND came a few turns after that. Preparations for the comming war slowly formed from that point on. A general course of action was discussed until a few turns before each of us got Chivalry. At this point, actual battle plans started to be drawn up. Not that it did us any good. How does the saying go? "Plans never survive the first encounter with the enemy." We declare war at the same time as ND. RP gifts cities to GS and 90% of our battleplans were thrown out the window. GF started marching us into RP territory and slowly went mad. Aggie took over and improvised EXTREMELY well.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by Arnelos
WhiteBandit pretty much just nailed what happened. 12 turns sounds about right... I remember that we had been suspicious of GoW's intentions before that, but it was the experience of being in chat with GoW and their insane demands for Chivalry that convinced us the attack was coming almost for sure in the very near future.

When no-one else would offer us the tech and everyone else already had it, that sealed the deal.

you mean that chat where I roleplayed a sleazy Arab trader?

[Hot_Enamel]

Originally posted by Arnelos
WhiteBandit pretty much just nailed what happened. 12 turns sounds about right... I remember that we had been suspicious of GoW's intentions before that, but it was the experience of being in chat with GoW and their insane demands for Chivalry that convinced us the attack was coming almost for sure in the very near future.

If you are talking about serious war plans, then it all started around the time we got the NAP from GS.

In fact, everything was hanging on that NAP. If we didnt get it, we would of had to leave a bunch of riders home in case GS invaded.

As soon as GS gave us the NAP, we were free to make plans, and leave our home territory virtually defenseless.



We always held a grudge against RP since the exploring warrior fiasco. But serious planning happened when we got the NAP.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by donegeal
We had decided we were going to attack RP WAY back to just after the Move Warrior/Writing debackle. A formal agreement with ND came a few turns after that. Preparations for the comming war slowly formed from that point on. A general course of action was discussed until a few turns before each of us got Chivalry. At this point, actual battle plans started to be drawn up. Not that it did us any good. How does the saying go? "Plans never survive the first encounter with the enemy." We declare war at the same time as ND. RP gifts cities to GS and 90% of our battleplans were thrown out the window. GF started marching us into RP territory and slowly went mad. Aggie took over and improvised EXTREMELY well.

"We" only refers to certain members. I was constantly stressing that Roleplay could and should be our greatest ally in the game and that we should commit to an alliance to the end of the game with them.

The Writing/Warrior fiasco destroyed all credibility I had with the team and pretty much all DemoGames from here on to forever. I'll never hold another elected position again.

And that played into my own opinions. After feeling so betrayed by Roleplay I joined the ranks of anti-Roleplay members of our team and fought to see them destroyed.

This also helped feed ND's distrust of Roleplay because Borc seemed to have similiar feelings towards Roleplay.

[vmxa1]

For the newer players, could someone give some details of the incident? I keep reading about it, but do not know what it was about.

[UnOrthOdOx]

I don't completely know either, and I've been here from the start.

Basically, though, GF was our leader at the time.

We had an exploring warrior down around RP, and they told us they didn't want it south of X tile. Our position was if it wasn't settled it was free roaming, to which RP refused to trade techs with us until we moved said warrior. This turned into a big argument between Togas and GF. I think both were nearly removed over it, frankly.

I think what pushed some of us over the edge, or rather me personally is when some members of RP went outside of this forum/game and started bragging at how good they were at delaying our exploration through such means in the ISDG.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx

Our position was if it wasn't settled it was free roaming ..

An understandable policy. Does it still apply to Bob?

[Arrian]

[Panzer32]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


An understandable policy. Does it still apply to Bob?

Oh, do you want to land a warrior and explore the unsettled territory of Bob? I'm sure arrangements can be made to do that...

[Aggie]

I was one of the few on GOW that wanted to give RP chiv. Mainly because i feared not giving it to them would basically tell them "here we come". Additionally I wanted to use any money gained for more riders.

Aggie

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I actually think I agreed with you on that one. Simply because I wanted to fleece Roleplay for every dime we could before we gutted them for dog meat.

Oh well, have a nice day.

[badams52]

Wow, what an interesting strategy. I wonder if giving them chivalry would have left them completely in the dark and unprepared for an assault, or would it have made the battle much, much more difficult for ND/GoW with both sides footing horses.

My guess is that while not getting chivalry might have made the war less suspected, somehow I think they still would not have been totally surprised by the war, and having knights would have made the war more difficult.

[Arrian]

It might have been even better for you if you had done that, Aggie, considering RP had only a couple of horsemen (2? 3? 4? Surely not 5) by the time war broke out.

-Arrian