After action report "The Great Bobian War"

[GhengisFarb™]

At the time I believe I argued that if we sold them Chivalry they wouldn't have enough money to upgrade horsemen.

They would be able to build Knights but the minute war broke out they would most likely sell the farm to get Chivalry from someone else anyway or simply concentrate on cheaper Medieval Infantry and Pikemen.

[WhiteBandit]

I agree, the whole reason why we were suspicious in the first place was the way that every Civ acted towards us in regards to giving us Chiv. (Except Vox, you bunch of losers! ).

We thought we had fairly decent relations with GoW and starting to mend fences, then MZ blocked us cold. Ultimately, giving us Chiv would have still resulted in our defeat. However, instead of being caught with our pants down (in regards to our production capabilities), if you had given us Chiv, it would be like catching us completely naked... with MZ's sister!*

Bottomline: Had we received Chiv from GoW, we probably wouldn't have suspected a thing until we saw Riders/Ansars in our territory.

*Note: I don't think MZ even has a sister! But for the sake of conversation, my point stands!

[vmxa1]

Well it seems that all choices have ramifications, so it is hard to know which is the better one, until after you had to make it.

Now at least I got the picture.

[ZargonX]

Now at least I got the picture.

I hope what you were picturing wasn't

like catching us completely naked... with MZ's sister!*

because that's just wrong

[Master Zen]

hey, stop trash talking about my imaginary fictitious unreal hypothetical sister!!!

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by WhiteBandit
We thought we had fairly decent relations with GoW and starting to mend fences, then MZ blocked us cold. Ultimately, giving us Chiv would have still resulted in our defeat. However, instead of being caught with our pants down (in regards to our production capabilities), if you had given us Chiv, it would be like catching us completely naked... with MZ's sister!*

Bottomline: Had we received Chiv from GoW, we probably wouldn't have suspected a thing until we saw Riders/Ansars in our territory.

Yes! That is EXACTLY what I argued and they told me there was no way that could happen.

You just validated my arguments for me! I love you WhiteBandit!

[UnOrthOdOx]

How the hell did we decide to not give it to them, I was for selling it as well..?

IIRC it was ND objecting profusely - to the point of believing such an act to amount to an act of war - to the idea that made us decide not to...???

Little fuzzy during that time, was too busy attempting to convince GS that just because we were at war with them (during Vox) we weren't really at war with them... While dropping hints hoping they would think RP had hired us to do so...

[History Guy]

Hey, guys, that's alright. The cigars over here are better than they were on Bob anyway. We're having the time of our lives. Not so with you poor chaps. No, you're still sliding around in the mud and listening to Eric Idle cart a lot of dead people through your village every morning and that sort of thing. Over here in New Spain, we're puffing at cigars, having big dinner parties, getting drunk, and producing children like crazy. We even wear straw hats and shorts. Ah, this is the life.

(Pass me another one of those Squidling Ales, honey.)

The New Lord Calamari...but you can call me Phil.

[Master Zen]

RP saw those Riders pretty quickly, you had a horseman scout around Mavdad which saw our stack as soon it appeared on the mountains.

I don't recall who in GoW was actually in favor of the selling of Chivalry but I know I was very much against it, so was Panzer IIRC and so was ND.

[GhengisFarb™]

Oh, I remembered MZ and Panzer were against it. I just didn't want to name names.

[Hot_Enamel]

I too was against it.

1. We had already soured relations with another team (Vox) when we sold Fuedalsim to their opponent (GS). I didnt want to do it to ND as well.

2. We didnt know how many horses RP had. (We were told they didnt have many, but I didnt want to risk it)

3. I didnt want to upset ND

4. I believed RP already knew that they were in danger of an attack by GoW, and would build knights.

5. I didnt want to upset ND

[Aggie]

I looked back recently and for the record, I made the first troops build schedule and broad plan of war in 290 BC. The planning had been going on before that so lets say around 410 BC was the point of no return toward war.

Aggie

[Panzer32]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Oh, I remembered MZ and Panzer were against it. I just didn't want to name names.

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by Panzer32

What are you ranting about? I didn't say Panzer who. It could've been someone named Panzer21 for all they knew.

[Aggie]

Now children lets bring this arguement back into our private forum. We don't want everybody to know how totally dysfunctional we are, so far its been our dirty little secret. :wink:.

Aggie