Poll on the Japan civs

[joncnunn]

The Japan conquest is a rather unusual one. Unlike all the other conquests, no civs have any traights nor are there truely any unique units. In addition, there are no units that would triger a GA.

But, to get a GA, one just needs to build a great wonder. Any will do, but it will have to be built normally because Scientific Leaders are off.

This conquest does featured specific historic starting locations, which are vetoable to a human, but not the AI.

As I recall, there are 18 civs:

Three on their own island southwest of everybody.

Two on their own island south of the main one and east of the three civ island.

Thirteen civs on the main island. Of these, some are isolated, others are crowded; some are no where near fresh water, others start on it.

Eight of these civs are normally human playable.
The other ten are normally AI only. At least two of them are AI only because their starting positions are just too good. Most of the others have the poorest starting positions of all.

I've included screen shots of the 8 normally human playable.

And also note that nobody starts with any techs.

[joncnunn]

Date:

Extreme NE on the main land.
Nearest fresh water is several tiles south.

(That is saltwater NE)

Appears to be the most difficult normally human playable civ.

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Hojo

Extreme East, [southern one], along a river.

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Imagawa

Easterly, along south coast. Lots of hills, a good distance from water to the west, water fairly close to the north.

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Miyoshia

Centrally located, that water to the northeast is fresh water

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Mori

Western most civ on the main island, starts adjoining a one tile fresh water lake

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Oda

Centrally located, fresh water just west of screen shot, several grass land shield tiles just NE of screen shot.

[joncnunn]

Takeda

Easterly civ near north coast along one of the bigger rivers.
(It is on a grassland shield, we might want to help out the AI by relocating them NW off the shield)

Appears to be the easyist normally human playable civ.

[joncnunn]

Uesugi

Extreme East - Central

River just south of screen shot. 2 Goody huts next to each other just NE, another Goody Hut nearby south.

[joncnunn]

Ryuzoji : Northern most of the three on the SW island

Otomo: Central one of the three on the SW island

Shimazu: Souther most of three on the SW island

Same fresh water source for all three, northern one at a disadvantage trying to get to it.

[joncnunn]

Ichijo: Western one of the two on the South Island

Chosokabe: Eastern one of the two on the South Island

Fresh water is half way between them. But Chosokabe has a huge edge on goody hut locations

[joncnunn]

Urakami: Westerly, move a unit onto the mountain SW to spot the fresh water lake. In fact, we might want to help out the AI if we don't play them by moving them onto the plains along this lake.

Appear to be about as difficult as the Date.

[joncnunn]

Matsunaga: Just south of Miyoshia, which have them crowded in, and difficult to reach anyone else without passing thru them.

Closest fresh water access is in land that bound to be Miyoshia owned.

Appear to be the most difficult main island civ to play.

[joncnunn]

Saito: Central along north coast just west of a river. If we don't play them, we should move them east to the river to help them out.

Appear to be about as difficult as the Date.

[joncnunn]

Tokguawa : Centrally located along a river. Historic winner of this conquest. Position way too good to consider playing as a human.

Appears to be even easier than the Takeda.