Roman strategy thread

[joncnunn]

I've been checking how much they'd be willing to give for peace, and extrapolating.

There are 4 ways to aquire a city with the negioations:

1. Demand a city as tribute. (Only works with a very strong army and even then the city usally needs to be tiny.) I successfuly did this in my current SP game.

2. 20 turn peace deal can include a side surrending cities. (Current case with this game)

3. Alliance can include a side surrending cities. (Exploitation adviable on turn 1 in the SP mode of this conquest. [Discover Celts on turn 1, establish embassy, Celts will surrender Marasellis in exchange for the prviliage of fighting Carthage])

4. MPP can include a side surrending cities. (Exploitation adviable on turn 1 in the SP mode of Naoleanic. In fact you can win the game that same turn with this exploitation.)

[Grandpa Troll]

Make it so Oh Great and fearless leader

[snoopy369]

Modo, I have to ask. Where do you keep getting this 9% area thing? A land area win is 20%, 50% population. (And I expect us to need much more than 20% land to hit 50% population, but that's just a guess.) Check F8...

[Modo44]

Originally posted by snoopy369
Modo, I have to ask. Where do you keep getting this 9% area thing? A land area win is 20%, 50% population. (And I expect us to need much more than 20% land to hit 50% population, but that's just a guess.) Check F8...

You are right. I made a mistake. Sorry.

[joncnunn]

Actually, building Aquaducts in size 6 cities to let them grow should be sufficent. There's also a couple of cities we might want to consider placing a Hospital on after that dye is road connected as well.

I was at 52% of the population when I hit 20% land area in my own game.

Originally posted by snoopy369
Modo, I have to ask. Where do you keep getting this 9% area thing? A land area win is 20%, 50% population. (And I expect us to need much more than 20% land to hit 50% population, but that's just a guess.) Check F8...

[Grandpa Troll]

Shame we couldnt have a big old all land game..kinda like simulating a continental battle

But thats another desire of my Political acreer


Senatorial Grampius Geezerius

[joncnunn]

Options for that:

Fall of Rome. (Play any normally playable civ except the Celts)

Also playing Middle Ages as the Abus or Turks is effectively all land as well.

Meso-America (any one) Because it takes so darn long to build a naval unit at all.

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll
Shame we couldnt have a big old all land game..kinda like simulating a continental battle

But thats another desire of my Political acreer


Senatorial Grampius Geezerius

[Grandpa Troll]

for sharing your knowledge..perhaps for a small purse of shekels I could be swayed to support any one of your initiatives on the floor for vote


ok...I support the wisdom of juncnunn and ask that you all do as well

c'mon..ya know da drill..monkey see monkey dooo

[Modo44]

Comments after the glorious reign of Emperor Betacles.

As the Empire is in a very good shape, there are mostly minor things in the domestic department. Only the first issue is very important.

• A few core cities can be micromanaged, to improve Legion, and Heavy Cavalry production. A Legion needs 23 uncorrupted shields, a Heavy Cavalry needs 15 uncorrupted shields. Building those units in 2, instead of 3, or in 3, instead of 4 turns will provide Rome with a stable, long-term increase in military output.
• And Infirmary in Rome would allow the city to grow. There are many unused tiles around our capital. That is uncorrupted production, and trade we are losing. Also, this would help Ancona, by providing it with additional Hills, and Mountains to work in the future.
• Massilia, and Lugdunum should both receive Harbors. This will free land tiles around Stolen Wine, so our Forbidden Palace city can grow.
• Cities near the Alps (Segusio, Conathon, Mediolanum) need more Irrigation around them, so they can work all those Hills and Mountains. An Aqueduct in Mediolanum is long overdue.
• We need more Workers to improve the claimed terrain. Perhaps not only corrupt cities should provide them.
• The cities of Malaca, and Brundisium will profit from Courthouses.

Diplomacy. Some interesting twists, that our Emperor provided. Things that can, and can't be done:

• The Goths want Horses. For that, they are willing to give 130 Gold and either a World map, or an Alliance against the Scythians. This I find worth considering.
• The Macedonians will pay us 10 Gold to keep fighting the Scythians. They will throw in a World Map. They will accept a straight Right of Passage proposal. Useful if we plan to keep the peace. Not useful, if we plan to attack soon.
• The Celts would require a large Gold sum to go after the Scythians. They will accept a straight ROP. Not very useful.
• The Egyptians will pay us 140 Gold for an alliance against the Scythians. This I find worth considering.
• The Carthaginians will not surrender all 4 cities in Spain for a Peace Treaty. In fact, they won't surrender any of the two bigger ones (size 4).

[Grandpa Troll]

We should honor your wisdom Modo by building a monument to that insight..

doth this please the Senator Supremius Modeyius?

[Modo44]

I'd rather you find those Nubian dancers Paddy talked about so much.

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Modo44
I'd rather you find those Nubian dancers Paddy talked about so much.

Mighty Senator Modo..

for services rendered beyond our perception and conceptual abilities

as head of our entertainment service for the Senatorial "Relief fund"

I present Mabel our finest Nubian Princess



dont thank me thank Paddy

[snoopy369]

*ewwwwww*

[Beta]

I second snoopy's 'ewwwwww'. That may put me right off this game. Let's try something a bit different. How about this Nubian dancer....

[Addled Platypus]

much better...I was realy begging to worry