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  • #16
    Excellent.

    Not often do I find someone who knows such obscure Arthurian references. One of my many hobbies is collecting books on Arthurian legend.

    $5 for you.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by GhengisFarb

      There aren't any horses, that's the racetrack I built last turn. I told you a long time ago you should build a racetrack on that tile since its in 3 different cities' radii.

      The icons are what people have built, the stack of lumber is a Lumber Mill, the paper is a Paper Mill, the scroll is a Bindery, the racehorse is a Racetrack, and the barrel is a Brewery.

      The only horses in the current market all come from nye and I've offered to pay the bonuses for anyone who buys them from nye.

      Another good site for a racetrack is adaMada's tile between Termina and Apolyton. It would use the combined pop of both to generate proceeds.
      Very good point . If we ever have enough horses about, I'm likely to build one (from what I understand, if I own two horses and that racetrack, I'm going to make something in the range of 11 commerce per turn (assuming the pop numbers haven't changed from that map you posted, which they probably have) -- not nearly as nice what you got from jdd, but nice all the same ), but I won't try to get into a bidding war with you . (In several turns, I should be turning a nice profit, but I doubt I'll ever be able to catch up to you ).

      -- adaMada
      EDIT: Nevermind, just read that bit about no player being able to own more than one horse on a track. Oh well -- owning one alone would make a really nice sum, and my 'jackpot' would be smaller but (as such) there'd be less competition... another good idea I'll probably steel from you, Ghengis .
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      • #18
        As normal, if there are any problems with this, let me know. As soon as I crunch some mental numbers on the horses and find out what NYE's selling for, my orders may be changing, but until then...

        EDIT: Ghengis, one question. The rules for breweries say "Allows up to 4 labor to convert up 2 food into 2 Ale {Changed name from mead to ale} per labor (1 to 1 conversion). " Does that mean that it's one labor to convert one food to one ale, or two? -- ada

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        Estate of adaMada, Turn 13
        Administered by adaMada

        Holdings: Chartres nw2, Timeline nnw, Apolyton wnw (Player #1)
        Production: 5 food, 2 shields, 4 commerce
        Stockpile: 2 halfshields, 3 shields
        Cash: $0
        Debt: $246

        Proposed deals:

        Complete construction of BREWERY on Timeline nnw.
        -- Hire one labor in Timeline ($130 max)
        --- If labor hired, use one stockpiled halfshield for supplies
        -- Use two vassals
        --- Use one stockpiled halfshield and one shield
        -- Building Complete!
        Feed 1 food to vassals
        Sell 4 food @ min. $1
        Sell 4 Commerce @ min. $1
        Stockpile 2 shields

        -- adaMada --
        Last edited by adaMada; October 23, 2002, 20:36.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by adaMada
          EDIT: Ghengis, one question. The rules for breweries say "Allows up to 4 labor to convert up 2 food into 2 Ale {Changed name from mead to ale} per labor (1 to 1 conversion). " Does that mean that it's one labor to convert one food to one ale, or two? -- ada
          Each labor can convert 1 food to 1 ale OR 2 food to 2 ale. The 1 to 1 means you get 1 ale for every 1 food you convert. A single labor can do up to 2 conversions.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
            Work 4 Apolyton labor and 1 vassal using 4 half shield and one shield to build Shoppe in Apolyton
            [/b]
            Why is it taking you 5 labor/shields to build a Shoppe?

            I don't think you have any vassals anymore since you didn't feed them last turn..................

            Not many people can survive for over 100 years with no food...........

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            • #21
              Estate Jonny, Turn 13
              Holdings: Apolyton SW; Termina NW2 Higher; Chartres SE2; Chartes E
              Administered By: Jonny
              Buildings: Hardware Store in Gaia, Shoppe in Gaia
              Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce, 2 vassals
              Production This Turn: 6 food, 5 shields, 9 commerce
              Current Cash: $1936
              Debt: $0

              Transactions this Turn:
              One food is eaten by vassals.
              Sell 5 food on the open market @ $1 minimum.
              Sell 2 shields on the open market @ $1 minimum. (through hardware store)
              Sell 9 commerce on the open market @ $1 minimum. (sell all that I can through my shoppe)
              Hire 1 labor in Gaia at $250 maximum
              Use 1 labor, 2 vassals, and 3 shields to build a retail business in Gaia. It is a "Eatery."
              Bid up to $1500 on tile A (chartres NE)


              Bold indicates things that have been changed since the original post.
              Last edited by Jonny; October 25, 2002, 18:47.

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              • #22
                Re: $Mini-Game TRADING SESSION THIRTEEN (13)

                MARKET STATUS UPDATE

                Labor Market
                Apolyton Available Labor: 7
                UnOrthOdOx is hiring 4 labor @ $130 max

                Termina Available Labor: 6
                Kloreep is hiring 2 labor @ $130 max
                UnOrthOdOx is hiring 4 labor @ $100 max

                Tassagrad Available Labor: 8

                BHQ Available Labor: 7

                Gotham Available Labor: 6

                Chartres Available Labor: 2

                Timeline Available Labor: 8
                adaMada is hiring 1 labor @ $100 max
                Kloreep is hiring 6 labor @ $100 max

                Gaia Available Labor: 10
                Jonny is hiring 1 labor @ $150 max
                UnOrthOdOx is hiring 3 labor @ $100 max


                Land Auction

                A) $1000 Chartres NE (2 food, 2 commerce)

                ...Jonny bid $1500

                C) $1000 Timeline NE (2 food, 2 commerce)

                E) $750 Gaia wnw (1 food, 2 commerce)

                O) $1250 Gaia N (2 food, 3 commerce)

                Q) $750 Gaia nne (1 food, 2 commerce)

                S) $1500 Gaia SE (2 food, 1 shield, 3 commerce)

                V) $1250 Gaia E (2 food, 1 shield, 2 commerce)

                ...Kloreep bid $1250
                Last edited by GhengisFarbâ„¢; October 24, 2002, 09:38.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by GhengisFarb

                  Each labor can convert 1 food to 1 ale OR 2 food to 2 ale. The 1 to 1 means you get 1 ale for every 1 food you convert. A single labor can do up to 2 conversions.
                  Ohh. I see now. Awsome . (I won't have to go bidding into the sky for more labor once someone else builds a brewery there ).

                  Thanks again Ghengis . (Am I the only American who thinks of the old Wyane's world skits from Saturday Night Live when I see that icon?)

                  -- adaMada
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                  • #24
                    Waynes World
                    Waynes World

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                    • #25
                      Minor note: I'm only hiring 2 labor in Termina, since I increased my hiring in Timeline to 6. (This way, both Unortho and I get all the labor in Termina we want.)

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GhengisFarb

                        Why is it taking you 5 labor/shields to build a Shoppe?

                        I don't think you have any vassals anymore since you didn't feed them last turn..................

                        Not many people can survive for over 100 years with no food...........

                        Yes I did: From last turn:

                        Production: 8 food (11 - 3 for vassals), 4 shield, 11 commerce
                        That is how I have always listed it, you want it different?

                        Ooops, let me make some adjustments. Changes in bold


                        New Transactions
                        Sell 3 food @ $1 min
                        Sell 6 Commerce through Shoppe @ $1 min
                        Sell 4 Books Through Bookstore @ $1 min
                        Sell 7 Commerce @ $1 min
                        Buy 4 shields @ D/S
                        Hire 3 Labor from Gaia @ $130 Max
                        Hire 4 Labor from Termina @ 130 max
                        Hire 2 Labor in Tassagrad @ $130 Max
                        Hire 3 labor from Apolyton @ 130 max
                        Work 3 labor and 3 shields in Gaia to build bindery
                        Work 3 Apolyton labor using 3 half shields to build Shoppe in Apolyton
                        Work 2 Tassagrad labor and 1 vassal using 1 half shield and 2 shield to build an eatery
                        2 Termina labor work 2 shield in paper press
                        2 termina labor and 1 vassal work 3 shield in lumber mill
                        4 vassals work 4 paper in bindery making books
                        Last edited by UnOrthOdOx; October 24, 2002, 11:05.
                        One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
                          Yes I did: From last turn:

                          Production: 8 food (11 - 3 for vassals), 4 shield, 11 commerce

                          That is how I have always listed it, you want it different?
                          You had a TOTAL production of 8 food. 8-3 for vassals would leave you 5 to sell.


                          Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx Ooops, let me make some adjustments. Changes in bold
                          New Transactions
                          Sell 9 food @ $1 min
                          There it is again, you have a TOTAL production of 9 food, do you have some land tiles not shown on the map?

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                          • #28
                            Ok, My mistake, Don't know where I was getting off so far on my food production. Can we just remove the cash from my account then? Or subtract 3 extra food this turn?

                            And I will go fix that.
                            Last edited by UnOrthOdOx; October 24, 2002, 10:41.
                            One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
                            You're wierd. - Krill

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
                              Ok, My mistake, Don't know where I was getting off so far on my food production. Can we just remove the cash from my account then?

                              And I will go fix that.
                              Could you just feed them twice this turn? If I remove the food from last turn it will affect the food price and I will have to recalculate everyone's transactions.

                              CURRENT PLAYER PRODUCTION

                              1)adaMada (5 food, 2 shields, 4 commerce)

                              2)Captain (2 food, 1 shield, 3 commerce)

                              3)civman2000 (2 food, 1 shield, 2 commerce)

                              4)Darkness' Edge (4 food, 1 shields, 2 commerce)

                              5)Duddha (15 food, 4 shields, 20 commerce)

                              6)Epistax (4 food, 1 shields, 4 commerce)

                              8)GhengisFarb (45 food, 18 shields, 38 commerce, 12 Dye(commerce))

                              9)jdd2007 (12 food, 1 shields, 15 commerce)

                              10)Jonny (6 food, 5 shields, 9 commerce)

                              11)Kloreep (9 food, 3 shields, 10 commerce)

                              13)Nimitz (6 food, 4 shields, 9 commerce)

                              14)notyoueither (15 food, 4 shields, 11 commerce, 3 Horses(commerce), 4 Dye(commerce))

                              15)Rendelnep (2 food, 1 shields, 2 commerce)

                              18)Spiffor (1 food, 2 shields, 2 commerce)

                              19)UnOrthOdOx (9 food, 6 shields, 14 commerce)

                              20)=OttomusCeasar= (13 food, 2 shields, 7 commerce)

                              21)Apocalypse (2 food, 4 commerce)

                              22)Randolph (2 food, 1 shield, 3 commerce)

                              I made have made mistakes, so you might want to doublecheck.
                              Last edited by GhengisFarbâ„¢; October 24, 2002, 14:16.

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                              • #30
                                House Ghengis Land Holdings in the Province of Mingapulco......Turn #: 013
                                House Ghengis:
                                A lot of tiles.


                                Managed
                                for Captain: BHQ W (grass)
                                Leased
                                from civman2000: Apolyton nne (grass)
                                from rendelnep: Termina E (grass)

                                Stockpile(s):
                                GhengisFarb Estate:......0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce (1 halfShield, 8 Ale)
                                civman2000 Estate:.......0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
                                rendelnep Estate:........0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
                                TOTAL STOCKPILE..........0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce (8 Ale)
                                3 vassals
                                --------------------
                                Captain Estate...........0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
                                --------------------
                                =OttomusCeasar= Estate...0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
                                STOREHOUSE and 2 vassals
                                --------------------

                                Cash: $13,510
                                Debt: $0
                                Buildings:
                                STOREHOUSE ON ESTATE OF GHENGISFARB
                                Banana King Taverns
                                TAVERN IN TASSAGRAD, APOLYTON, BHQ, AND TERMINA
                                Apolytonian Markets
                                SHOPPE IN TASSAGRAD, APOLYTON, BHQ, TERMINA, TIMELINE, AND GAIA

                                Milton Hotels
                                INN IN TASSAGRAD, APOLYTON, BHQ, TERMINA, TIMELINE, AND GAIA

                                DUFF'S BREWERY(west) in "Jungundy" - Termina ene,
                                DUFF'S BREWERY(east) in "Jungundy" - Apolyton nnw,
                                GHENGIS BREWING COMPANY on "Ghengis Mountain" - BHQ N

                                Vassals:
                                GhengisFarb Estate: 2 French. 2 Babylonian
                                TOTAL VASSALS: 4

                                Administered by: GhengisFarb, First Ghengis of House Ghengis
                                ------------------------------------------
                                Production this turn: 49 food, 19 shields, 44 commerce, 12 Dye(commerce)
                                *includes leased estates

                                Captain's Estate: 2 food, 1 shield, 3 commerce
                                ------------------------------------------
                                Code:
                                Proposed Deals: 
                                --------------
                                MANAGED ESTATES
                                Captain sells 2 food @ D/S
                                Captain sells 1 shield @ D/S 
                                Captain sells 3 commerce @ D/S 
                                --------------
                                PERSONAL AND LEASED ESTATES
                                
                                
                                Hire 2 labor from BHQ @ no more than $150
                                Hire 3 labor from Tassagrad @ no more than $150
                                Hire 1 labor from Termina @ no more than $150
                                Hire 2 labor from Apolyton @ no more than $150
                                Hire 1 labor from Timeline @ no more than $150
                                Hire 2 labor from Gaia @ no more than $150
                                Hire 2 labor from Chartres @ no more than $150
                                Hire 6 labor from Gotham @ no more than $150
                                
                                Use 1 labor from Chartres and 4 labor from Gotham to build Brewery
                                     on tile Gotham wsw 
                                Use 2 Gotham labor and 1 vassal to build Shoppe in Gotham
                                Use 1 Gaia labor and 2 vassals to build Specialty Shoppe in Gaia
                                Use 1 Chartres labor and 1 vassal to build Tavern in Chartres
                                
                                Use 1 labor from BHQ to operate Inn
                                Use 1 labor from Tassagrad to operate Inn
                                Use 1 labor from Termina to operate Inn
                                Use 1 labor from Apolyton to operate Inn
                                Use 1 labor from Timeline to operate Inn
                                Use 1 labor from Gaia to operate Inn
                                
                                
                                Use 2 labor from Tassagrad to convert 4 food into 4 Ale in Duff's Brewery West(Termina ene)
                                Use 1 labor from BHQ  to convert 2 food into 2 Ale in Ghengis Brewing Company (BHQ N)
                                Use 1 Apolyton labor to convert 2 food into 2 Ale in Duff's Brewery East(Apolyton nnw)
                                
                                Vassals eat 2 food
                                Sell 23 food at $1 minimum
                                Sell 4 food in Apolyton at $1 minimum through Tavern
                                Sell 4 food in BHQ at $1 minimum through Tavern
                                Sell 4 food in Tassagrad @ $1 minimum through Tavern
                                Sell 4 food in Termina at $1 minimum through Tavern
                                
                                Sell 6 shields @ D/S
                                
                                Sell 20 commerce @ minimum price of $1 
                                Sell 24 commerce @ minimum price of $1 through Shoppes(Inn)
                                Sell 12 Dye(commerce) @ minimum price of $1 through Shoppes(Inn)
                                
                                Sell 2 Ale in Apolyton at $1 minimum through Tavern
                                Sell 2 Ale in BHQ at $1 minimum through Tavern
                                Sell 2 Ale in Tassagrad @ $1 minimum through Tavern
                                Sell 2 Ale in Termina at $1 minimum through Tavern
                                
                                
                                Pay civman2000 $175 rent 
                                Pay rendelnep $175 rent
                                Last edited by GhengisFarbâ„¢; October 26, 2002, 21:50.

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