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  • #46
    Is this an official poll? I voted Army, I agree with MWIA and nye's assessment of the lack of need for the Art of War.

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    • #47
      Tough choice, but I say build an army. I would pick a wonder first, if I could garentee an other great leader in the near future. But experience has shown me that GLs can be few and far between.

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      • #48
        Just remember, if we purchase sun tzu, the other civs that are working on it will switch to micheolangelos (wow, did I spell that messed up.....) ASAP and will build it first.... thus we only have a choice of one or the other. The other will by default go by us, along with possibily leo's, which I feel is the most important of the three. So I say first Army, then hold him for leo's.
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        • #49
          I have NEVER had a problem getting GLs, I am now and have been for a while of the opinion that the inability to produce GLs is a direct result of the strategic failure of the player to maximize their chances.

          Simple GL maximization rules:
          ALL units are constructed in cities with barracks.
          Veteran units have one mission and one mission only: Get promoted to Elite.
          Elite units have one mission and one mission only: win a combat to generate a GL.
          Units that have generated a GL go into armies, and they are the ONLY units that go into armies.

          From game experience we will generate at least 2 more GL's from the Persian war (assuming we take the entire homeland).

          When Sun Tzu is built EVERYONE who hasn't built it will switch to the Sistine Chapel. It is entirely possible that within 2 turns both Sun Tzu and the Sistine Chapel will have been built by other civs and we still won't own Theology.

          We can have Sun Tzu, let's take it. We have a shot at Sistine Chapel, let's try for it. We have an opportunity to seize the Pyramids, let's go for it.

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          • #50
            For those concerned about another civ building the chapel, which wonder do you think would be harder to take by force? SunTzu or Sistine?
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            • #51
              Originally posted by donegeal
              For those concerned about another civ building the chapel, which wonder do you think would be harder to take by force? SunTzu or Sistine?
              Well, donegeal has a STRONG point.
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              • #52
                Either and neither.

                SunTzu's might be built across the world, while Sistine might be built on our borders. Or the reverse. Circumstances involve a lot more than whether any one or other civ has tropps with 4 pips over 3.

                One thing though, you gain no culture from a captured wonder.
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                • #54
                  Originally posted by notyoueither
                  One thing though, you gain no culture from a captured wonder.
                  Exactly. Thank you NYE. Capture Sun's, and we get the benefit. Capture Sistine's, and we get the cathedral boost, but miss out on the culture points, which are huge.
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                  • #55
                    Build a wonder now, our citizens are going to keep whining until the only wonders we have are the ones we have to take.

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                    • #56
                      Yes, by all means, build a wonder now. But first, buy theology, and build the right one. Pay the price, because what you're buying is the Chapel.

                      [edit: in other words, I'm not voting in this poll, because my choice is not listed.]
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                      • #57
                        If we can afford to buy Theology (or we get it for peace ), we should do as Robber Baron said. The Sistine is incredibly powerful, especially for religious civs like us.

                        If not, let's rush Sun Tzu's, because it's not right to preserve a leader while still a war is going.

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