Turn Chat was a Joke.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Could the DUE time be pushed to 10 or more hours? to Give me more time to cmpile?

[Aggie]

Good point, orders should be seperate from debate. Can we freeze orders threads so only the minister can give orders.
Aggie

[UnOrthOdOx]

Contradictions should have to pass some kind of quickpoll of ministers. We can't just have someone saying they want to change something every order. NO one agrees with every order given.

[UnOrthOdOx]

I was testing that idea, but people wanted to be able to discuss in that thread. A post from me at the top of that thread where I compile ALL orders should work just the same.

[adaMada]

I wouldn't have any major problem with pulling the limit back to ten hours before, though I'm not a minister so I really wouldn't know what's involved . In general, though, it seems like most orders are done before then. The one thing you would have to have a system for is, however, last second changes -- if Togas had decided to adopt the techwhoring plan, for instance, then he would have had a way to get it added even though it was only a few hours before the turnchat. Still, I think a simple PM or having someone point it out in the chat (if there is one) would probably be good enough to deal with that.

-- adaMada

EDIT: Oh, unortho, you left a trailing '7' out in that link you posted in your new thread.

Just FYI .

[UnOrthOdOx]

Yeah, that should be handled VIA PM to whomever is playing.

edit: just saw that too, should be fixed.

This damn keyboard leaves off too many keystrokes. I need a new one...

[WhiteBandit]

testing viability of a table...

this is just a test, created with Composer (Mozilla) to use HTML:

 

  
Government of Apolytonia
 
 

  
5 Turn Plan
 
 

  


  
Turn 1
  
Turn 2
  
Turn 3
  
Turn 4
  
Turn 5
 
 

  
Termina
  
Workers N, NW clearing jungle.
  Done 11 turns!!!
  
 
  
--
  
--
  
--
 
 

  
Banana HQ
  
Worker SQ moving
  to stack near Termina
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
Begin
  clearing jungle N, ,NW of Termina
 
 

  
Loveshack
  
Worker stack W
  clearing Jungle
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
Move
  S,  Clear Jungle
 
 

  
Napoleton
  
Worker stack S.
  
Build
  Road (After Completion, clear jungle unless threatened)
  
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
 

  

      

  

      

  

      

  

      

  

      

  

      


 

[Togas]

The posted plans of the SMC was to sack Rheims. I PM'd Uber to ask him what his goals were and he wrote me that he'd fight as long as he had to. Uber, in essence, did not want to be the one to make the decision of how long to fight, he wanted someone else to make that decision.

No one had made the decision of how long to fight, but the debate was out there. It fell upon me to make the decision of whether or not to extend the war, I opted for peace, but I wanted to integrate it with the current plans of the SMC so that there would not be a conflict.

When I wrote my orders on Friday to wait two turns then declare peace, it was based on the existing orders of the SMC -- he posted that his troops were to sack Rheims.

His orders did not change on Saturday prior to the turnchat.

Now, if his deputy did change the orders in turnchat, his deputy was notauthorized to change my explicit instructions that peace would involve Feudalism, not those worthless cities. I also wrote down that the Aztecs were to be traded Feudalism for Monarchy, and my orders to create an embassy with the Aztecs were also ignored.

We're now stuck with a 8gpt repayment program, two worthless cities we're going to have to give away, and less money than we could have made if we had traded to the Aztecs first, then sold Feudalism to the Romans.

The turn chat wasn't just a joke, it was an indignity to the office of the Foreign Minister when the deputy SMC decides that he can overrule my orders entirely and submit his own plan because no one from my office was there to tell him not to.

--Togas

[WhiteBandit]

n/m

Anyone know why it posts about 2 miles of space between the table and what I wrote? Jesus. Well, at the moment I'll leave it there to show an example...

EDIT
Well I put brackets around the code and it seemed to have fixed the problem

[adaMada]

WhiteBandit...

Looks like Composer might be having a few problems, but I bet someone (actually, I could probably do it) could create a html layout for a table where you could replace with orders for turn 1, with orders for turn two, etc. for each of the various ministries.

In other words, the table can be done if Unortho wants it in that format , and I'd be happy to help anyone make one manually who wants to (though I'd have to remember how, I know I could do it once, and it's not all that bad, just kind of weird).

-- adaMada

Edit: White -- put a copy of whatever code you used in [code] brackets up there so I can see what you did and maybe I can tell you where the space came from.

Edit^2: Didn't think the [code] brackets would fix it, but I guess it makes sense .

One other thought -- when I'm doing complex stuff with lots of VB code and HTML, such as the Foreign Ministry Office thread, I normally play with it on my notepad first; that way, I can check for any obvious mistakes before it goes up. The Notepad might help anyone who's planning on a table/html based format .

[adaMada]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
Yeah, that should be handled VIA PM to whomever is playing.

edit: just saw that too, should be fixed.

This damn keyboard leaves off too many keystrokes. I need a new one...

'k and 'k. Just checking that you knew about both .

-- adaMada

[UnOrthOdOx]

Togas,

Mistakes happened, that is clear. Help us to move forward. SERIOUS consideration needs to be placed on what a Deputies function is. MY understanding was that Aggie, (no offense) was relieved as of THIS CHAT, and had NO Authority whatsoever.


Posted in the 290 orders thread:

I'm going to let aggies orders stand for wedneswdays turnchat.

I'll reassume the position of SMC after the next turnchat.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Originally posted by adaMada
WhiteBandit...

Looks like Composer might be having a few problems, but I bet someone (actually, I could probably do it) could create a html layout for a table where you could replace with orders for turn 1, with orders for turn two, etc. for each of the various ministries.

In other words, the table can be done if Unortho wants it in that format , and I'd be happy to help anyone make one manually who wants to (though I'd have to remember how, I know I could do it once, and it's not all that bad, just kind of weird).

-- adaMada

Edit: White -- put whatever code you used in [code] brackets up there so I can see what you did and maybe I can tell you where the space came from.

If it's easy enough for me to learn, I would love it that way. I know jack about HTML. Not my area of computer expertise...

[adaMada]

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx


If it's easy enough for me to learn, I would love it that way. I know jack about HTML. Not my area of computer expertise...

Let me look up how to do it again and see... as I recall, tables are only hard because it's very counter-intuitive -- once you've done it once or twice it gets easy. HTML as a whole isn't that easy to learn, but learning how to do a simple table probably wouldn't be that hard...

I'll think about it and look into it later; it'd be a very neat way of organizing orders, but it might be too much... either way, though, an individual minister could probably do a table, and then you could copy the code over into the combined orders thread, and that'd probably be easy if any ministers are interested in doing tables...

/me realizes he's rambling again, and decides to just send the post and hope it makes sense .

-- adaMada

[Hagbart]

It was even worse for me, I missed the chat completely!