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  • #31
    Epi, no. Prices depend on supply and demand.
    As of now, demand is 26. Supply is 31. Food is trading at 84$.

    If you offer your 2 food to sell, that increases the supply by 2, making it 33.
    New price is 26:33 * 100$ = 79$.

    The more people offer to sell, the lower the price goes. Now, if instead you wanted to BUY food... (why I don't know, the only thing I can see worth buying is shields, labour, and commerce) then the demand would increase and prices go up.


    DAVOUT,

    Ideally yes, if it was genuine waste, but think of it another way. What waste represents in this game is the Black Market. They sell their ill-gotten goods at lower prices (think bootleg dvds and the like) which reduces the demand for our (legitimate) product. The reason we do it this way is that since we're primarily sellers and not buyers, the incentive to reduce waste should translate into higher profits for us. Makes sense?

    btw, want to bid for any land? would love to have you help out with the beta game!
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    • #32
      labourers are only necessary to convert shields.
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      • #33
        Count me in.

        I offer $1000 for lot nr 6, Apolyton NW11.

        When will the bidding close?
        Last edited by Franses; August 18, 2002, 19:27.
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        • #34
          btw, the building list I put there was only preliminary.
          I imagine a silo would be a priority (so that you can stockpile food that you're unable to sell instead of having it disappear). Please feel free to make suggestions. but it's okay, we don't need to get ahead of ourselves.

          also, if you don't do anything during the turn, we assume you stockpile. if you know you're going to be away and you don't want to stockpile but still trade, you can also hire another player to act as a "steward" and take care of your property for a fee or percentage of profits. I'm sure there are those who are willing to do so.
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          • #35
            The more people offer to sell, the lower the price goes. Now, if instead you wanted to BUY food... (why I don't know, the only thing I can see worth buying is shields, labour, and commerce) then the demand would increase and prices go up.
            So is the demand for things like food set arbitrarily by someone?
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Kramerman


              So is the demand for things like food set arbitrarily by someone?
              sort of. the base rate for all three commodities and labour is $100. just because it's easy to work with.

              the Demand:Supply ratio modifies that base rate. Demand increase prices, supply reduces them. Special buildings allow you to stockpile, and cut away at your competitor's profit.

              I tried to compromise between something simple to understand and something dynamic enough to make it interesting.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Captain


                DAVOUT,

                Ideally yes, if it was genuine waste, but think of it another way. What waste represents in this game is the Black Market. They sell their ill-gotten goods at lower prices (think bootleg dvds and the like) which reduces the demand for our (legitimate) product. The reason we do it this way is that since we're primarily sellers and not buyers, the incentive to reduce waste should translate into higher profits for us. Makes sense?
                I cannot agree. The cost of the items stollen is included, directly, or indirectly (insurances, guards, protection devices), in the total cost of the items ; as long as the market price is above the total cost, the firms sell, but as soon as the total cost exceed the market price, the firms stop selling.
                The incentive to reduce the thefts bears on the public authorities through the loss of taxes not on the commercial or industrial enterprises alone.
                There is also the fact that a significant portion of the market must be satisfied, almost at any cost. The comparison with the bootleg dvds is a particular situation of a non vital item bought on the black market at an extremely low price by people who would never had bought at the market price. In this respect, we can observe that the progressive reduction in price is due to the increased quantities sold and not to an extension of the waste.
                Last argument, your market price is the white market price ; and the quantities offered on that market are the quantities produced less the waste.

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                • #38
                  So if I have only food, and I want to use the food to pay for a silo, what are the steps to take? I don't get it yet :P

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Epistax
                    So if I have only food, and I want to use the food to pay for a silo, what are the steps to take? I don't get it yet :P
                    I think you would have to either find someone willing to trade shields for your food, or you could sell your food and buy shields. Then once you have enough, you would have to sell your food in order to get money to hire a worker, who could covert those shields into a silo. This is if I understand it correctly.
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                    • #40
                      Here is a map with the prices listed. I think red shows up
                      best, comments welcomed.
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                      • #41
                        Second try here it is. Here is a map with the prices listed. I think red shows up best, comments welcomed.
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                        • #42
                          I'll buy that land just north or termina. The one being worked.
                          Aggie
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                          • #43
                            thanks aggie, the map is very helpful
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                            • #44
                              I want to join and will buy:

                              021 Tassagrad W: $200

                              And If we can have two then

                              018 Tassagrad SE: $200
                              For your photo needs:
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                              Sell your photos

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                              • #45
                                Aggie.. I already put $350 on that one...

                                N of Termina, $350
                                NW of Termina, $250

                                Current bids
                                Last edited by Epistax; August 18, 2002, 21:23.

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