The Presidency of Apolytonia (Campaign Thread)

[Ninot]

Welcome to the Presidency of Apolytonia Campaign Thread.

The current candidates are:
Trip (incumbent)
Ninot

Please post if you wish to join as a candidate, or ask questions of the candidate.

[jdd2007]

Trip! Trip! Trip! Trip! Trip! Trip! Trip! Trip! Trip! Trip! Trip! Trip!

oh wait, no spam. better ask a question. ummm

so, what is your position on bananas? i mean, case *color*. who should we attack first? the blue or pink?

[jdd2007]

[seriously, which one]

[Ninot]

That's Right! Ninot's back, and hes hungry!

I would like to officially state that I am running for the Presidency of this fine nation.

Trip has done an excelent job with the first term of this nations government. But he ran unopposed. I want to give you, the people, a second choice.

If you kind people were to give me your vote for President, I would promiss to keep us on a track to both glory and prominance. We must continue on this path we are on, and we must not let any distractions get in our way. As a war is on the horrizon, if I were elected to the Presidency, I would urge the approriate ministers not only to continue military production, but to also lend industrial support to our men in arms.

We must dimminish the hinderance of this jungle, but we need not do it in the one time we must be united in the cause of war.I would hope that we could assure our SMC the propper tools and the propper ways to assure victory.

As the outgoing Foreign Minister, and with my mind still heavily on that matter, the people can be assured that I will work with the Foreign Minister as well to keep our reputations universally high, and to get ourselves the technology we need to get us ahead in the world. Right now, in our time of need, we will need to turn to our neighbors to keep us neck and neck with them. We must keep these relations in good condition so that we may always be neck and neck with them, untill the time comes when we will surpass them, as we surely shall.

But above all, the people will always come first among my concerns. Decisions by a government elected democractically, and in the virtues of democracy, should come by group decisions. We should keep united under this banner of democracy, and advance under it as not one, but as many, with all of our opinions seperate, and with all of our decisions met threw thoughtfulness and debates by the people.

Although I do hold democracy highly, I must state that when it comes to immediately making decisions, I would hope that you, the people, can come to expect your government to make some decisions on its own. Although you can expect your government to request your thoughts on most issues, when a turnchat comes to pass, I dont believe a poll on every single little thing is neccesary. I will not advance the idea of polls for if a warrior of ours comes to a fork in the road. You are electing an SMC to make this decision for you, and if I were to be elected President, I would allow my ministers to do their jobs as is neccesary.

To finnalise this post, I must state that even though I am among the ranks of the Democractic Industrialist Party of Apolytonia, and therefor a dirty no-good peacenik, at this time in our nations evolution, I agree the only course is war. I am not in the middle ground right now, I am full out stating that we MUST choose an opponent, and shed some blood. But, as a member of the DIA, I must state that we can do this the best way possible, and that is to build our nation in a war-driven mentality, follow the intellectual plans of our better war-makers, and make sure our nation does not suffer before the war, during the war, or after the war.

With the propper tools, we will endure now and later. I hope to bring you these tools. If you want us to control our own destiny, and if you want a propserously pleasant tommorow, count your vote for Ninot.


P.S. In the hopes of honorability, I would like to keep this campaign, and thus this thread, free of flame or anything of the likes. This is about the matters, and what matters count to you, and to us. Trip is an excelent candidate, and I request anyone who supports (or doesnt support) myself does not flame him in any way shape or form. And I can only beg you allow the same for me. Thankyou

[Ninot]

In my opinion, the blue make a better opening target.

[Jon Shafer]

Competition eh?

Alright then.

Independent Intelligent Voter: "Why should I vote for you?"

Well, not because I 'play' the game well... anyone can listen to people yell at him in mIRC and punch buttons (okay, not EVERYONE ). So that's not a good reason. Vote for me for my agenda on certain things? Well, no, not the most important reason... after all, the President's main job is to play the game, not make decisions that impact the play. That's the job of the ministers. Of course, the President's input on certain things is always important, but not so much as the ministers, and the actual voting public.

Independent Intelligent Voter: "Okay, I know why not to vote for you, so why should I vote for you then?"

Because I'm active. Because I get things done. I'm not going to run on the whole "I want perfect balance of science, military, production, blah blah blah, we will make money under my leadership, blah blah blah, I support Plan Blue" because that will probably be the agenda of every canidate in every election. I will not bore you with that. What I will tell you is that I do things as President. Who is submitting most of the amendments? Who has gotten most of the threads at the top stickied. Who has CREATED most of the threads at the top that have been stickied? Who made the first website to report things to the people?

Independent Intelligent Voter: "Ohhhh, so that's why I should vote for you then huh?"

You betcha. Any primate can punch buttons and post the save file... I think that the role of President means much more than that: and I've been trying to prove that through my first term. In a year, when the Demo game is still going strong, I hope people look back at things and say "Wow, look at all this guy did to try and make the game better that wouldn't have happened if he hadn't of been President." That is what I'm trying to do. That is why I feel you should vote for me.

[Spiffor]

To both candidates :
How will you dispatch gold among ministries ?
How often will you poll ?
How long turnchats will last under your rule ?
How much work will you give to the VP ?
Are you going to be more active, as active, less active than last month ?

[Ninot]

Originally posted by Trip


Independent Intelligent Voter: "Okay, I know why not to vote for you, so why should I vote for you then?"

Because I'm active. Because I get things done. I'm not going to run on the whole "I want perfect balance of science, military, production, blah blah blah, we will make money under my leadership, blah blah blah, I support Plan Blue" because that will probably be the agenda of every canidate in every election. I will not bore you with that. What I will tell you is that I do things as President. Who is submitting most of the amendments? Who has gotten most of the threads at the top stickied. Who has CREATED most of the threads at the top that have been stickied? Who made the first website to report things to the people?

I would like to state my opinion on this topic.

You did create many and most of the polls for election, and for many and most of the decision making polls that werent made by ministers concerning their affairs.
However, to that effect.

Anyone may have popped on that one faithful night, and posted all of the election threads (that got topped). As for the ammendments, it is very good of you for submitting them, but making ammendments does not a president make. As you have said, a Presidents job is to play the game.

And above all... "Who made the first website to report things to the people". I ask, who first THOUGHT of a website to report things to the people? And, to that extent, who indeed followed up with a website of his own once he got the time (to that effect, for his own office).

As president, I feel I could do any of the tasks Trip has accomplished. Creating polls and getting threads topped is not a magical ability. Anyone can do it. And I intend to do it, if it becomes my responsibility, and if indeed there is a need for a thread to be topped.

For the purposes of debate, I ask you Trip, will you be an even better president if you are the person to once again post all the election polls?

[notyoueither]

Will you be able to devote the time necessary to do a good job for the time of your term? Or will managing your estates, shopping for slaves, or some other preoccupation (RL) take you away from us?

2nd question, for the important positions... What levels of difficulty have you regularly won Civ3 at?

[Ninot]

Originally posted by Spiffor
To both candidates :
How will you dispatch gold among ministries ?
How often will you poll ?
How long turnchats will last under your rule ?
How much work will you give to the VP ?
Are you going to be more active, as active, less active than last month ?

1: I will dispatch gold as neccesary. FM and Trade will be my higher priorties, as tech trading is important right now, and we need gold to make that workd

2: I will poll whenever is neccesary, and that is whenever it seems prudent. I will not over poll, but I hope not to disregard an issue at any moment. To that effect, I hope to make the most efficient polls possible, so no need to re-poll is evident

3: Turnchats will last as is convenient. As became apparent, sometimes they close because too many ministers have to leave, or because the Prez or VP cant make things work enough. I dont want them to be too long, as more decisions will be made every turn now, so each turn must be well thought out. I suspect on the whole turnchats will be groing shorter(turns-wize). I cant fight this trend, but I hope to get things done in them, and to only close them once great polling is needed

4: If ever i can't keep up to a turnchat, or live on the threads like I should, I will immediately admit so and turn over my workload to the VP. I will most definately not allow a turnchat to be execively delayed because I am not available. I would instruct the VP to take my place as he sees neccesary.

5: I know I was a bit sidetracked at the end of my term as FM, but that was a problem outside of my hands really. I see myself as more active with this new term, as I will have more duties to perform, and no video card problems to hold me back. I will have enough time for these duties, as I know as FM, I was always looking for something to keep me occupied, but never really had anything. In the presidency, i think I will always be occupying myself with the wellbeing of the nation.

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by Spiffor
How will you dispatch gold among ministries ?

Not as much my job, but what I support is that we strive to maintain a strong tech lead (if possible). Gaining gold is pointless in the long run if we fail to possess the ability to use it for improvements/units/etc.

How often will you poll ?

Whenever the need arises. I'm not going to say "I'll poll 5 times a week" because we may need more, we may need less. Again this area is probably more suitable for the individual ministers regarding individual topics.

How long turnchats will last under your rule ?

Between an hour and an hour and a half depending on what is going on. We may end sooner if something important comes up, i.e. we go to war with America, etc.

How much work will you give to the VP ?

I will always run by my proposed amendments, etc. by the VP first when possible. I will rely more on him to help me in my reports, and I will have most of the stickied threads, etc. updated by him from now on, if I'm elected.

Are you going to be more active, as active, less active than last month ?

I suppose that's a question for me. I feel that my effort last month is more than acceptable (except for my internet going down, but that's not my fault ), so I'll probably do about the same work, except where the VP will take over.

Will you be able to devote the time necessary to do a good job for the time of your term? Or will managing your estates, shopping for slaves, or some other preoccupation (RL) take you away from us?

Of course. I'll be around as much as I was last term, which seems to be what most of the people are happy with.

What levels of difficulty have you regularly won Civ3 at?

Most of the time I play at Monarch, simply because the AI has a little edge, but it's not outrageous where you have to use 'cheat strategies' which take advantage of the AIs weaknesses to defeat it. However, I've played at higher difficulties with much success before as well.

[Robber Baron]

I particularly appreciate the fact that the communication issue is on the table here. Competence and skillful planning represent important facets of the President's job. But communicating the game to the citizenry in a way that brings it alive is equally important. Trip started nicely in this regard -- his website is a great tool (though now it's out of date ) And he's given a lot of time to the forums.
We need that effort to continue.

[Robber Baron]

Where do each of you stand on relocating our capital?

[Ninot]

Originally posted by Robber Baron
I particularly appreciate the fact that the communication issue is on the table here. Competence and skillful planning represent important facets of the President's job. But communicating the game to the citizenry in a way that brings it alive is equally important. Trip started nicely in this regard -- his website is a great tool (though now it's out of date ) And he's given a lot of time to the forums.
We need that effort to continue.

I agree to that, but I must simply remind you that anyone could have accomplished what Trip did in the forums, and to see exactly what that website was about, you must merely check out whos idea it was at the top of that website, and then check out my website the foreign ministry to see that I can accomplish the same task (please remember my video card fried between the creation of the website and the next turnchat, so i havent been able to update it yet)

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by Ninot
I would like to state my opinion on this topic.

You did create many and most of the polls for election, and for many and most of the decision making polls that werent made by ministers concerning their affairs.
However, to that effect.

Anyone may have popped on that one faithful night, and posted all of the election threads (that got topped). As for the ammendments, it is very good of you for submitting them, but making ammendments does not a president make. As you have said, a Presidents job is to play the game.

And above all... "Who made the first website to report things to the people". I ask, who first THOUGHT of a website to report things to the people? And, to that extent, who indeed followed up with a website of his own once he got the time (to that effect, for his own office).

As president, I feel I could do any of the tasks Trip has accomplished. Creating polls and getting threads topped is not a magical ability. Anyone can do it. And I intend to do it, if it becomes my responsibility, and if indeed there is a need for a thread to be topped.

For the purposes of debate, I ask you Trip, will you be an even better president if you are the person to once again post all the election polls?

Is it special? That depends. Most people wouldn't want to do it. That's why you don't have 15 people running forward to be President. With power comes responsibility to use that power. That's what the office of the Presidency allows me to do more easily than someone who "may have popped on that one faithful night."

I do more than 'top threads' and 'post polls'. I put a lot of effor into everything I've done, starting discussions, bringing up new issues that haven't been addressed yet, and using my position as Presiden to help move things along. Do you think most people would deem it acceptable if member number 210 comes by, then the next day posts the elections? So far no one has said "hey, why is this guy doing all this stuff?" simply because I'm the President. They see it as an acceptable part of the job, as long as I'm fair in what I do. I'm not promoting my ideals though what I do, I just do it because as President, I fell I should. Being President gives me the initiative to get things done when otherwise, others wouldn't be able to.