The SPDG-3 Starts Here and Now!

[Kuciwalker]

I've always gotten the bonus.

[Panzer32]

ok, you keep the bonus when you settle on a shielded tile but you gain a shield when you settle on a non-shielded tile.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Panzer32
ok, you keep the bonus when you settle on a shielded tile but you gain a shield when you settle on a non-shielded tile.

Are there only three people in this DemoGame that have figured that out? Me thinks skywalker needs to get off his Banana Plantation a bit more often........

[Dominae]

I suggest waiting for C3C to come out before starting the next SPDG.

There will be very little interest in this game once expansion arrives. I was planning to lurk here because I've never participated in a SPDG, but I just know this one is not going to last. But hey, if you guys are up for it, do not let me stop you.


Dominae

[BigFurryMonster]

It'll be quite some time until enough people have bought C3C, and Firaxis has fixed the first bugs.

[Torkkeli]

Originally posted by Panzer32
ok, you keep the bonus when you settle on a shielded tile but you gain a shield when you settle on a non-shielded tile.

And in some governments (or is it after certain size) you get the extra shield in the city square when built on the shielded title. I just cannot remember how it went. There was a thread about it somewhere, just cannot find it.

But to make the comparison a bit harder we should take into account the fact that once our capital grows, we'll be able to work more titles if we move 1 W.
(I tried to calculate the production/turn for the two sites but got myself ever so confused )
I would have make a fancy comparison table of the two sites... If I just knew how

To briefly summarize the production/turn when all tiles are improved we get for this site 1+2+1+2+1=7(8 if the wheat is bonus)
1 W would produce 1+6x1+2+1=10 (11 if the wheat is bonus + additional 1 shield for each hidden grassland being bonus)

So in the long term it seems it is better to move.

And as last but not least we are not industrious. It takes some time to build up the improvements that would bring in the shields.

To conclude this I still say move 1 tile West.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Are there only three people in this DemoGame that have figured that out? Me thinks skywalker needs to get off his Banana Plantation a bit more often........

No, a city over a shield bonus produces TWO shields. However, I didn't realize that this didn't happen in some governments.

[Panzer32]

IIRC one of those governments that you do not get the bonus is despotism so then it would be bad for starting? Anyways go ahead do whatever... probably does not matter a huge amount in the long run.

[Epistax]

If we settle on the shielded square (worst case) we'd only have that one shield, and whatever the wheat provides (plus forest, which bunks growth).

Discuss.

[Dominae]

Move the Scout, then decide what to do with the Settler.

If you found the city on the Bonus Grassland, you will not get the benefit of that extra Shield, at least during the period of the game where it matters most.


Dominae

[joncnunn]

Desoptism isn't the only period in which it's best to found on the grassland without shield:

During the GA, you get +1 shield in every tile already producing at least one already so having the shields spread out is beneficial.

Also should there be an Iron Works, it also produces +1 shield in every tile already producing at least one already. (Not an issue in this area)

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by BigFurryMonster
It'll be quite some time until enough people have bought C3C, and Firaxis has fixed the first bugs.

Besides interest has already dwindled. Waiting will just cause more dwindling. We must halt the dwindling or we will dwindle into an ever dwindling spiral of dwindling doom!

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by joncnunn
Desoptism isn't the only period in which it's best to found on the grassland without shield:

During the GA, you get +1 shield in every tile already producing at least one already so having the shields spread out is beneficial.

Also should there be an Iron Works, it also produces +1 shield in every tile already producing at least one already. (Not an issue in this area)

Iron works just doubles total shield production.

[Torkkeli]

This just in from the strategy forum:

If we settle on the shield grass we'll get the production bonus in our city square when city size reaches 7 and we must be out of despotism.

So unless there are more shielded grasslands hiding under the fog I think we should build our city right here.

[Mad Bomber]

Build the scity at the start position. With the border expansion you will have good food production (Wheat and Fish) your priority will be maximizing shield production.