Germans

[Heresson]

I must admit that You are spoiling it, but well,
I didn't expect anything better...

[Serb]

Well, let's see:

I have tried many times to win playing as the Germans, but never achieved it. Everybody (well, almost everybody) wants to declare war on the Germans. Why? Is this deliberate design policy because of real-life history?

You: I don't know, but if it is true, I like it pretty much

And you call this a "highly cultural conversation."?

If I was German I would find your claim offensive.
Anyhow I don't see how your comment could be a "highly cultural".

[Heresson]

What do have Germans and culture in common?
hm...

[Jon Shafer]

It's because Germany has the highest agression of any civ in the game, making their neighbors very upset.

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Serb
If I was German I would find your claim offensive.

Nah Serb. If it came from somebody respectable, maybe. But from "Blind dog" Heresson,

On topic: Jaholt, the Germans are not the best choice for the "builder" type of player, which you seem to be. Otherwise you'd not be afraid to get attacked, but attack yourself. The German trait "scientific" might be of some value for that playstyle, but the other trait "militaristic" certainly is not. And as Trip already pointed out, they have the highest aggression level (5), you can see this in the editor. This keeps their neighbors on their toes, or makes them "nervous". You can win builder style games with the Germans, but it's more difficult than with other civs.

To win with the Germans, you should play out their advantages. They are the only civ starting with both Archers and Spearmen, and are militaristic, what means cheap barracks and quick unit promotions. Build 3-4 cities, a barrack in each and from now on let one of them produce Spearmen and the rest Archers and go bonk some heads. Attack a neighbor. Take one city (the capital) and may be one more, raze one and make peace for all their techs, gold and maybe another city. Go "visit" the next civ the same way. After you are through with all neighbors, start with the first again. Continue with Swordsmen and Horsemen. Rinse, repeat, till your home continent is clean. Settle it completely and from now on you can switch to "builder". You won the Ancient age, which means in most cases, you won the game.

If you don't like that warlike approach, try another civ. The French, Egyptians and Indians are perfect builder civs from the start. A few of the new civs are good too. Any combinations of "Religious", "Industrious" and "Commercial" is very good. If you want some variety, mix "Scientific" in and try the Babylonians, Persians or Greeks. Each one a very good builder civ!

[Nuclear Winter]

Re: Germans

Originally posted by Jaholt
I have tried many times to win playing as the Germans, but never achieved it. Everybody (well, almost everybody) wants to declare war on the Germans. Why? Is this deliberate design policy because of real-life history?
I'm an Englishman, by the way, not German.
Has anyone succeeded as the Germans?

You don´t need allies, you need good factories for your Panzer divisions!!!!

[Serb]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph


Nah Serb. If it came from somebody respectable, maybe. But from "Blind dog" Heresson,

I've noticed too that his dog doesn't have eyes.
What have you done with poor creature Heresson?

[Heresson]

Originally posted by Serb



I've noticed too that his dog doesn't have eyes.
What have you done with poor creature Heresson?

I relieved him from the horror of seeing ones like You.

[Zero]

Going back on topic, it is probably because of their traits.

AI Neighbors hate to see 2 things:

- Militaristic civ thats powerful (But not as powerful enough to intimidate them)
- Scientific Civ thats so ahead yet wont share anything

It's probably because Germany is able to do well in both fronts.

[Zero]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph

To win with the Germans, you should play out their advantages. They are the only civ starting with both Archers and Spearmen, and are militaristic, what means cheap barracks and quick unit promotions.

Also they can research Iron working right away should they wish... (shudders in fear)

If you don't like that warlike approach, try another civ. The French, Egyptians and Indians are perfect builder civs from the start. A few of the new civs are good too. Any combinations of "Religious", "Industrious" and "Commercial" is very good. If you want some variety, mix "Scientific" in and try the Babylonians, Persians or Greeks. Each one a very good builder civ!

Babylonians are excellent cultural civs IMO. Sci/Rel helps alot cranking out libraries and temple, so if you like culture Babs =

[Serb]

Originally posted by Heresson


I relieved him from the horror of seeing ones like You.

Sadist.

Where are defenders of animal's rights when you need them?

[Heresson]

In my dungeons.

[HAND]

I like culture civs but usually play as the Egyptians- The industrial trait allows to build sciencitfic improvements faster anyway. I favour the Egyptians over the Persians since there is no anarchy with religious civs.

The Germans trait implies a conquest or domination victory(fairly hard....), probably not a diplomatic or cultural victory!

[HAND]

The cultural victory is probably just as hard actually.. I've never achieved that!

[Serb]

Mee too, but Sir Ralph showed the way how it could be achieved easily.