Ethnic Trees

[dervish]

Originally posted by sabrewolf

how about proposing dervish's idea to firaxis for an update or PTW?

Thank you, mate. The truth is that the country you come from actually is a very vivid example of how some Germans, French and Italian Helvetians forged new confederation - Switzerland after being kinda dissappointed by their respective main France, Germany and Italy rulers (correct me, if I am wrong). I think it is an excellent example of co-existence of so many nations in one country.

[dervish]

Originally posted by kring
Those are great examples. Consider East Timor is now independent. Some countries have given some of their subjects more independence (not total) to avoid revolutions.

I would like some kind of modified civil war, just like you suggest.

Yeah, it's true. Hopefully Firaxis lads think up things better than us.

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by dervish
Thank you, mate. The truth is that the country you come from actually is a very vivid example of how some Germans, French and Italian Helvetians forged new confederation - Switzerland after being kinda dissappointed by their respective main France, Germany and Italy rulers (correct me, if I am wrong). I think it is an excellent example of co-existence of so many nations in one country.

not quite like that

some of the swiss cantons (like departements or states, just a hell lot smaller ) formed an alliance against the austrian rules which was the beginning of this country (1291). gradually one canton after the other joined it and afaik none of these belonged to any other empire, probably just controlled by some foreign people. (though, i might be wrong... swiss history seems a bit dull to me compared to others like the german history).

you're kind of right about the the dissappointment. a lot of german swiss are frightened of ze germanz (to use civ3 language: swiss are in awe of zem ) and french swiss don't really mind the french, but would hate to be called a french. italian swiss however don't like italians that much and that's the reason why the usually liberal canton of tessin votes right wing conservative as soon as it concernes europe *lol*

[dervish]

Hmm..... It's very interesting. Thank you, sabrewolf, for this piece of information, frankly, I didn't know about that.

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by dervish
Hmm..... It's very interesting. Thank you, sabrewolf, for this piece of information, frankly, I didn't know about that.

no problem, you can't know everything. some people from some places in the world think switzerland = sweden

[Marquis de Sodaq]

Originally posted by dervish
Well, could you give us a link to them. It would be very interesting, you know.

I knew this would be the follow up. Alas, I got a new OS on my pc since then, so my old links are no longer saved. I'll take a little time to try to find them again. With luck, I'll post...

[Fresno]

Originally posted by sabrewolf
... or look on over to east-timor. they wanted independence, malaysia (or at least pro-malay paramilitary) suppressed the voices with brute force... but now after some time they broke free. ...

Malaysia? Don't you mean Indonesia?

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by Fresno
Malaysia? Don't you mean Indonesia?

ofcourse, sorry...

[dervish]

Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq

I knew this would be the follow up. Alas, I got a new OS on my pc since then, so my old links are no longer saved. I'll take a little time to try to find them again. With luck, I'll post...

Thank you. I will post here more trees on less significant ethnic and language groups I am afraid no one would be interested in them, 'cause their contribution to the world civilization is so small some of them are barely known to anybody. And put them on the front page of this thread, may be.

My God!! Got screwed up with putting more maps on the first page

[Anodyne]

Originally posted by dervish
Thank you. I will post here more trees on less significant ethnic and language groups I am afraid no one would be interested in them, 'cause their contribution to the world civilization is so small some of them are barely known to anybody. And put them on the front page of this thread, may be.

No, they are NOT any less significant than any other languages! Of course, they might not have such a huge impact on world history, but it pisses me off everytime someone thinks (hey, I'm not saying you think so, I can see that you obviously don't) they would be inferior because of that. At least I would be extremely interested in them!

So far I've added every one of your links to my favourites' pages. I didn't know the Internet was so full of good stuff, usually I've gotten all my linguistic information from books...

[Anodyne]

Oh, and the idea of ethnicity is great! So far I've sort of added it to Civ2 when I was playing it;

When ever I would get an advanced tribe or a settler out of a goody box, I would place a sign (§, ", #, ¤, etc...) after that city to indicate that the settler / tribe would be of another ethnicity, and when that city produced another settler that ended up building a city, that city would also be marked with the same sign...

Heh, I guess it was a bit nerdy, but at least I got some more fun out of an old game

[kring]

I also would be interested in learning more, Dervish.

[sabrewolf]

WOW!

hey dervish.

i finally had time to study those maps and charts you posted. incredibly interesting!

great work!!! and it's nice to know, that there are others out there who care about roots, authenticy, development and ethnic relations of civilisations!

if you have anymore, please post

[dervish]

Thank you lads and maids

I'll try to quench your thirst for knowledge as much as I can. And my thirst needs to be quenched too.

[dervish]

Originally posted by Space05us
dervish you have a lot of time on your hands don't you? eiother that or you've been planning this

Oh, my!!! I almost omitted your remarks, sorry, now I see you almost look like Gorbachov.
But no, I don't have any spare time any longer. I wish I could